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2026-01-22 00:00:04 +0100 <pipsquak-bird> I also wonder if i could use ideas liek 9p.io
2026-01-22 00:00:21 +0100 <pipsquak-bird> so jobs are auto parallizable over grid of nodes
2026-01-22 00:00:24 +0100 <pipsquak-bird> woa wee
2026-01-22 00:00:34 +0100 <pipsquak-bird> happstack.com looks awesome
2026-01-22 00:00:41 +0100 <pipsquak-bird> but can it grid?
2026-01-22 00:00:53 +0100 <pipsquak-bird> 9p.io really seems clever more I see it
2026-01-22 00:01:01 +0100 <pipsquak-bird> the editors zonks me
2026-01-22 00:02:39 +0100 <pipsquak-bird> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228468620_RMoX_a_Raw_Metal_occam_Experiment
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2026-01-22 03:05:41 +0100 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> So, this is breaking my brain... How the heck is this the same as "liftA2" for lists: "cross f xs ys = foldr (\x rec -> (map (f x) ys) ++ rec) [] xs"
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2026-01-22 03:06:11 +0100 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> cross is the same as liftA2 if you work on lists and I have no clue why!!!
2026-01-22 03:07:00 +0100vidak(~vidak@2407:e400:7800:2c01:d0be:76f8:cc84:bd4a) vidak
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2026-01-22 03:08:23 +0100 <monochrom> Convert foldr back to your own recursion to see.
2026-01-22 03:08:47 +0100 <ncf> convert foldr to concatMap and remember how the list monad works
2026-01-22 03:08:48 +0100 <monochrom> Alterantively convert your own recursion to foldr to see. :)
2026-01-22 03:09:16 +0100 <monochrom> Or yeah, that.
2026-01-22 03:09:21 +0100 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> Yeah, that makes sense...
2026-01-22 03:09:34 +0100 <ncf> cross f xs ys = xs >>= \x -> map (f x) ys = xs >>= \x -> ys >>= \y -> [f x y] = f <$> xs <*> ys
2026-01-22 03:11:47 +0100 <monochrom> The reason I prefer functional programming is that I just do algebra and see how two programs do the same thing. As opposed to what most people do for imperative programming: talk in "English" "intuition (read: mince and bend words) and call that "understanding". (LLMs proved that it is not understanding.)
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2026-01-22 03:21:43 +0100 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> I see...
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2026-01-22 03:22:27 +0100 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> for lists "sequenceA" is "foldr (liftA2 (:)) [[]]"
2026-01-22 03:22:32 +0100 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> Huh?!?!? How does that work?
2026-01-22 03:23:27 +0100 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> sequenceA [[11,12], [21,22]] = [[11,21],[11,22],[12,21],[12,22]]
2026-01-22 03:23:49 +0100 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> And "foldr (liftA2 (:)) [[]]" does the same thing.
2026-01-22 03:25:17 +0100 <monochrom> I might rewrite "[[]]" as "pure []".
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2026-01-22 03:27:20 +0100 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> I see... that's very similar to "foldr (:) []", but with applicative actions.
2026-01-22 03:27:21 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-01-22 03:28:17 +0100 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> How does that compute a Cartesian product though?
2026-01-22 03:29:06 +0100 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> "cart [[11,12], [21,22]]" is "[[11,21,22],[12,21,22]]"
2026-01-22 03:29:58 +0100 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> Erm... not that. It's late and I'm tired.