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2025-03-20 00:23:49 +0100 | tv | (~tv@user/tv) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
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2025-03-20 00:29:38 +0100 | <yin> | TIL i can specify package names in import statements |
2025-03-20 00:29:40 +0100 | malte | (~malte@mal.tc) malte |
2025-03-20 00:30:01 +0100 | <yin> | and that "this" is a reserved name |
2025-03-20 00:32:29 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | yin: is "this" a reserved name? Are you sure you did not end up in C++ accidentally? |
2025-03-20 00:34:19 +0100 | <int-e> | "The special package name this can be used to refer to the current package being built." |
2025-03-20 00:34:32 +0100 | <int-e> | https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/latest/docs/users_guide/exts/package_qualified_imports.html#pack… |
2025-03-20 00:34:53 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | ah, for packages -- TIL |
2025-03-20 00:34:57 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
2025-03-20 00:36:52 +0100 | <yin> | i'm not sure of anything these days |
2025-03-20 00:38:30 +0100 | <int-e> | . o O ( I doubt, therefore I might be. ) |
2025-03-20 00:39:58 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
2025-03-20 00:43:38 +0100 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) alfiee |
2025-03-20 00:45:05 +0100 | <yin> | as the area of your knowledge grows, so does the perimeter with ignorance |
2025-03-20 00:46:35 +0100 | <EvanR> | with great power comes great I²R |
2025-03-20 00:47:30 +0100 | <int-e> | hmm drop the linearity and you might have a light bulb moment |
2025-03-20 00:48:06 +0100 | int-e | ohms and coughs ;-) |
2025-03-20 00:48:06 +0100 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
2025-03-20 00:50:45 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
2025-03-20 00:52:45 +0100 | <yin> | resistence is futile |
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2025-03-20 00:56:26 +0100 | <yin> | we should stay grounded and avoid heated arguments |
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2025-03-20 02:06:14 +0100 | <monochrom> | impedance > resistance >:) |
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2025-03-20 06:00:13 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <dmjio> "rapid" is underrated |
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2025-03-20 08:03:53 +0100 | <[exa]> | hm, is there some simple/recommended way to read a bunch of Storables from a file? |
2025-03-20 08:04:58 +0100 | <[exa]> | e.g. something like `hReadStorable :: Storable a => Handle -> IO a` or so |
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2025-03-20 08:07:34 +0100 | <[exa]> | ok, `storablevector` pretty much does it, great :) |
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2025-03-20 09:31:57 +0100 | <[exa]> | tomsmeding: btw any hot protip on how to do a bucketing aggregation in any of the array packages, preferably without going to mutable arrays? (I've got one array with N items, one array with N indexes 0..K-1 (which places the item into i-th bucket), and want to have an array with K sums of items that belong to i-th bucket) |
2025-03-20 09:32:05 +0100 | <[exa]> | tomsmeding: (basically k-means ^ ) |
2025-03-20 09:32:35 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | I know off the top of my head how the primitive is called in Accelerate and Futhark. :p |
2025-03-20 09:32:40 +0100 | tomsmeding | opens repa docs |
2025-03-20 09:33:39 +0100 | tomsmeding | is confused |
2025-03-20 09:34:53 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | oh repa doesn't have push arrays? |
2025-03-20 09:35:38 +0100 | <[exa]> | so in accelerate and futhark this is "push arrays", right? |
2025-03-20 09:35:50 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | in accelerate it's 'permute', in futhark it's 'reduce_by_index' |
2025-03-20 09:36:59 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | in the general lingo of array languages, there's "pull arrays" (arrays defined by a function from index to value) and "push arrays" (arrays defined by a function I -> I' and an array on index space I; the function denotes where the element should go) |
2025-03-20 09:37:22 +0100 | alp | (~alp@2001:861:8ca0:4940:17be:23b1:68c0:522c) |
2025-03-20 09:38:00 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | [exa]: in massiv, I guess makeLoadArray(S)? |
2025-03-20 09:38:11 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | why is this so non-obvious |
2025-03-20 09:38:15 +0100 | <[exa]> | lemme check, I'm at backpermute now :D |
2025-03-20 09:38:21 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | backpermute is the other way round |
2025-03-20 09:38:39 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | backpermute is the pull array version |
2025-03-20 09:39:06 +0100 | <[exa]> | yap, was looking for any permute |
2025-03-20 09:39:27 +0100 | tomsmeding | searches for "repa push array" on duck |
2025-03-20 09:39:32 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | "Including results for javascript array push method" |
2025-03-20 09:39:36 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | no wtf |
2025-03-20 09:40:59 +0100 | <[exa]> | like, I can see why people dodge this given the insane ambiguity in optimization of the usual push arrays |
2025-03-20 09:41:15 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | it's one of the fundamental things you need to do histogram-like things |
2025-03-20 09:41:26 +0100 | <[exa]> | yeah |
2025-03-20 09:41:26 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | also it's one of the standard building blocks for the implementation of a parallel 'filter' |
2025-03-20 09:41:51 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | (map the predicate over the input array, scan (+) over that to determine destination indices, then forward permutation) |
2025-03-20 09:42:00 +0100 | <Athas> | Aren't push/pull arrays representations? Does Accelerate's permute actually construct a push array? |
2025-03-20 09:42:01 +0100 | chele | (~chele@user/chele) chele |
2025-03-20 09:42:42 +0100 | <[exa]> | as in, histograms ain't that big of an issue because the histogram array is relatively tiny, you can fold your way around that and it's gonna be fast. But I've got like 1MB target array, this won't fold. |
2025-03-20 09:42:43 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | Athas: None of Accelerate's source-level primitives construct a delayed array, it's all manifest, so indeed, technically there are neither push arrays _nor_ pull arrays |
2025-03-20 09:43:01 +0100 | <Athas> | Yeah, that's what I thought. |
2025-03-20 09:43:04 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | but it's still useful to think of the two directions when evaluating primitives / their performance |
2025-03-20 09:43:22 +0100 | <[exa]> | ah, here we go: DL: Delayed load representation. Also known as Push array. |
2025-03-20 09:43:33 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | [exa]: yes, that's how I ended up with makeLoadArray* |
2025-03-20 09:43:33 +0100 | <[exa]> | tomsmeding: thanks a lot |
2025-03-20 09:44:22 +0100 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@ip1f10cbd6.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) ash3en |
2025-03-20 09:44:22 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | you know what? Neither repa nor massiv have a parallel filtering function |
2025-03-20 09:44:53 +0100 | <[exa]> | filtering as in "shrink vector" or "mask operations" ? |
2025-03-20 09:44:55 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | Or at least it doesn't have "filter" in the name |
2025-03-20 09:44:57 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | :t filter |
2025-03-20 09:44:58 +0100 | <lambdabot> | (a -> Bool) -> [a] -> [a] |
2025-03-20 09:45:00 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | as in that one |
2025-03-20 09:45:06 +0100 | <[exa]> | so a shrinky one |
2025-03-20 09:45:08 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | yes |
2025-03-20 09:45:35 +0100 | <[exa]> | yeah well you know how lovely the parallelization of that is |
2025-03-20 09:45:49 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | as I said, you can parallelise that with map + scan + permute |
2025-03-20 09:45:56 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | but it's not very fast, indeed |
2025-03-20 09:46:21 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | scan and permute happen to roughly be the array combinators with the worst constant factors |
2025-03-20 09:46:22 +0100 | <[exa]> | like, |
2025-03-20 09:46:32 +0100 | lortabac | (~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:55ab:e185:7f81:54a4) |
2025-03-20 09:46:38 +0100 | <[exa]> | this sounds like you'd get an array of data-determined size |
2025-03-20 09:46:42 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | yes |
2025-03-20 09:46:43 +0100 | <[exa]> | sounds like nope. |
2025-03-20 09:46:47 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | it's fine |
2025-03-20 09:47:02 +0100 | [exa] | has his opinion on data-determined sizes |
2025-03-20 09:47:05 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | it means not all shapes are known statically, but that's already the case if you can create arrays with runtime shapes |
2025-03-20 09:47:33 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | let n = sum _ in generate [n] (\i -> _) |
2025-03-20 09:47:44 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | voilà, a data-determined array size |
2025-03-20 09:48:08 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | this is supported first-class in the vast majority of array languages |
2025-03-20 09:48:47 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | (I know of one where it isn't, which I recently learned of -- Dr.Jit -- and that's a rather strange one, as array languages go) |
2025-03-20 09:49:28 +0100 | <[exa]> | like, it's okay but if your arrays are a few tens of gigabytes you can't just allow the program to yolo allocate a new one |
2025-03-20 09:49:37 +0100 | <[exa]> | (usually it can't) |
2025-03-20 09:50:21 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | [exa]: that sounds like it's more about allocation than about dynamic sizing? |
2025-03-20 09:50:58 +0100 | <[exa]> | yeah, mostly. but you always need to allocate somehow, right? |
2025-03-20 09:51:28 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | functional array languages are not very good at controlling allocation, yes |
2025-03-20 09:51:33 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | the explicit representation markers in repa and massiv help a bit |
2025-03-20 09:51:41 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | I still don't see what the connection with dynamic sizing is :p |
2025-03-20 09:52:48 +0100 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) alfiee |
2025-03-20 09:54:46 +0100 | <[exa]> | in most cases that I've seen in practice there's usually a switch that triggers if the array reduced too much or too little (usually corner cases), which is preferably triggered before the costly aggregation takes place |
2025-03-20 09:55:02 +0100 | <[exa]> | which implies you need some custom code between the scan and permute |
2025-03-20 09:55:15 +0100 | <[exa]> | so I'm not a big fan of having these glued into single functions |
2025-03-20 09:55:28 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | [exa]: what do you mean with "reduced too much / too little"? |
2025-03-20 09:56:19 +0100 | <[exa]> | say you're clustering stuff and you get a pathological case where everything gets into a single cluster (most algorithms have to interrupt and do stuff differently) |
2025-03-20 09:57:17 +0100 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
2025-03-20 09:57:32 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | I see |
2025-03-20 09:57:38 +0100 | <[exa]> | btw the makeLoadArray is probably not it (or I don't see how to use it to tell it the index) |
2025-03-20 09:58:31 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | [exa]: makeLoadArray is the monadic thing, essentially |
2025-03-20 09:58:47 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | the function you pass should use the element writing function _it_ gets passed to fill the destination array |
2025-03-20 09:59:00 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | I have no clue what that Bool is |
2025-03-20 09:59:21 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | ah you get False if it was out of range? |
2025-03-20 09:59:23 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | odd |
2025-03-20 09:59:32 +0100 | <[exa]> | yes the bool confuses me |
2025-03-20 09:59:44 +0100 | <[exa]> | ah wait there's one extra parentheses there |
2025-03-20 09:59:49 +0100 | <[exa]> | gooooood okay, saved |
2025-03-20 09:59:52 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | ah :) |
2025-03-20 10:00:50 +0100 | <[exa]> | now the other question is how to actually do the aggregation/sum there, for the histogram |
2025-03-20 10:00:59 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | oh wait |
2025-03-20 10:01:00 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
2025-03-20 10:01:05 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | lol oops |
2025-03-20 10:01:13 +0100 | tomsmeding | was just blindly looking for push arrays |
2025-03-20 10:01:23 +0100 | k_hachig | (~k_hachig@2607:fea8:351d:ef0:7025:bda8:57fd:1c3b) k_hachig |
2025-03-20 10:03:06 +0100 | tv | (~tv@user/tv) tv |
2025-03-20 10:03:14 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | I have no clue |
2025-03-20 10:03:29 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | I'm very confused why neither repa nor massiv seem to have a histogram operation of any kind |
2025-03-20 10:03:41 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | Athas: you don't happen to know this, do you? |
2025-03-20 10:04:04 +0100 | <Athas> | It's not so easy to do efficiently, but it's not so hard to do OK. |
2025-03-20 10:04:13 +0100 | <Athas> | But my experience is that they don't crop up so often. |
2025-03-20 10:04:22 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | it's extremely hard to do so OK if you get zero primitives for them. :P |
2025-03-20 10:04:29 +0100 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj |
2025-03-20 10:04:30 +0100 | <[exa]> | :D |
2025-03-20 10:04:53 +0100 | <Athas> | If you have few bins, just do an outer loop over all bins. |
2025-03-20 10:05:04 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | with a fold per bin, right |
2025-03-20 10:05:16 +0100 | <[exa]> | Athas: I've got a bit too many bins which are huge |
2025-03-20 10:05:26 +0100 | <[exa]> | need the sparsity here, unfortunately |
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2025-03-20 10:08:08 +0100 | alecs | (~alecs@nat16.software.imdea.org) alecs |
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2025-03-20 10:09:05 +0100 | <Athas> | Here's a solution you won't like: sorting followed by a segmented reduction is asymptotically optimal. |
2025-03-20 10:09:28 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | and then write your own segmented reduction because none are provided |
2025-03-20 10:09:37 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | but at least you can do so! |
2025-03-20 10:09:59 +0100 | <[exa]> | Athas: my data is too fat to get sorted efficiently (you'd die on memory throughput of the sort) |
2025-03-20 10:09:59 +0100 | <Athas> | Yeah, but it's slow as hell unless you have a really snappy sort. |
2025-03-20 10:10:17 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | also, repa has no sort, only massiv seems to, and that sequential |
2025-03-20 10:10:49 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | correction, it's parallel |
2025-03-20 10:11:01 +0100 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
2025-03-20 10:11:11 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | [exa]: does massiv's `tally` do what you want? |
2025-03-20 10:11:13 +0100 | j1n37- | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37 |
2025-03-20 10:11:44 +0100 | <[exa]> | tomsmeding: it's very similar, and I actually need counting |
2025-03-20 10:11:57 +0100 | <[exa]> | yeah good catch, let's take that apart |
2025-03-20 10:13:11 +0100 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@ip1f10cbd6.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
2025-03-20 10:18:09 +0100 | <Athas> | [exa]: 'tally' sorts the array. |
2025-03-20 10:18:18 +0100 | <Athas> | And looks completely sequential. |
2025-03-20 10:18:21 +0100 | mange | (~user@user/mange) (Quit: Zzz...) |
2025-03-20 10:18:49 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | sigh |
2025-03-20 10:20:02 +0100 | <Athas> | Clearly the best solution must be https://hackage.haskell.org/package/futhark-server |
2025-03-20 10:20:19 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | hah |
2025-03-20 10:23:48 +0100 | dhil | (~dhil@2a0c:b381:52e:3600:f2d3:292b:64f1:45c9) dhil |
2025-03-20 10:38:13 +0100 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) alfiee |
2025-03-20 10:39:49 +0100 | <[exa]> | well sounds to me like I'm FFIing to C :D |
2025-03-20 10:41:09 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
2025-03-20 10:41:44 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
2025-03-20 10:42:28 +0100 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
2025-03-20 10:43:00 +0100 | krei-se | (~krei-se@p3ee0faf4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in) |