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2025-01-27 05:10:19 +0100Tikosh(~quassel@user/Tikosh) Tikosh
2025-01-27 05:11:05 +0100 <Tikosh> hello. im a noob at programming and wonder if you can see my code. https://bpa.st/JQ3A
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2025-01-27 05:11:43 +0100 <EvanR> cool
2025-01-27 05:11:55 +0100 <EvanR> have you seen this function
2025-01-27 05:11:58 +0100 <EvanR> :t interact
2025-01-27 05:11:59 +0100 <lambdabot> (String -> String) -> IO ()
2025-01-27 05:12:43 +0100 <Tikosh> i have not
2025-01-27 05:13:10 +0100 <EvanR> it takes a function like your questionOne function as argument
2025-01-27 05:13:27 +0100 <EvanR> and does the getting of input and printing of response for you
2025-01-27 05:13:39 +0100 <int-e> meh it'll be awkward because there are prompts
2025-01-27 05:13:46 +0100 <Tikosh> EvanR: alright
2025-01-27 05:14:17 +0100 <EvanR> your program begins with a different pattern, yeah
2025-01-27 05:15:07 +0100 <EvanR> but you can practice making higher order functions like interact to factor out some common I/O patterns
2025-01-27 05:15:18 +0100 <Tikosh> EvanR: I still don't understand. sorry. I got a haskell textbook and started reading it for fun
2025-01-27 05:15:28 +0100 <Tikosh> EvanR: alright. ill practice
2025-01-27 05:15:44 +0100 <int-e> The code may be a tad too simple to comment on usefully. I wouldn't use `printf` (try using "%s" as your name)
2025-01-27 05:15:45 +0100 <EvanR> 👍
2025-01-27 05:16:44 +0100 <Tikosh> int-e: alrighty then
2025-01-27 05:16:47 +0100 <int-e> (Or, if you *want* to use printf, use "%s" and pass an extra argument whereever you're using user input.)
2025-01-27 05:17:18 +0100 <int-e> (putStrLn <string> prints a line)
2025-01-27 05:17:27 +0100 <Tikosh> int-e: I was told to put printf. originally it had print in it. i was running the mian from the REPL in Emacs
2025-01-27 05:17:50 +0100 <Tikosh> or on the REPL
2025-01-27 05:18:22 +0100 <EvanR> yes printf is kind of an awkward thing to go for in basic haskell
2025-01-27 05:18:50 +0100 <Tikosh> EvanR: so just go with putStrLn or print?
2025-01-27 05:19:01 +0100 <EvanR> putStrLn
2025-01-27 05:19:05 +0100 <Tikosh> alright
2025-01-27 05:19:20 +0100 <EvanR> % print 7
2025-01-27 05:19:20 +0100 <yahb2> 7
2025-01-27 05:19:27 +0100 <EvanR> % print "Hello World"
2025-01-27 05:19:27 +0100 <yahb2> "Hello World"
2025-01-27 05:19:36 +0100 <EvanR> notice the quotation marks
2025-01-27 05:19:48 +0100 <Tikosh> oh. i see
2025-01-27 05:20:31 +0100 <Tikosh> i was intending to make a console application. i only run it from the REPL. did not compile it, yet.
2025-01-27 05:20:51 +0100 <EvanR> % putStrLn "Hello World!"
2025-01-27 05:20:51 +0100 <yahb2> Hello World!
2025-01-27 05:22:06 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2025-01-27 05:23:31 +0100 <Tikosh> Thank you so much for your instruction
2025-01-27 05:24:40 +0100 <mauke> @src print
2025-01-27 05:24:40 +0100 <lambdabot> print x = putStrLn (show x)
2025-01-27 05:25:15 +0100 <mauke> % show 42 <> show 'q'
2025-01-27 05:25:15 +0100 <yahb2> "42'q'"
2025-01-27 05:26:08 +0100 <int-e> % unwords [show 42, show 'q']
2025-01-27 05:26:08 +0100 <yahb2> "42 'q'"
2025-01-27 05:26:50 +0100 <EvanR> you made a string containing values of different types!
2025-01-27 05:26:59 +0100 <EvanR> just kidding
2025-01-27 05:27:03 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2025-01-27 05:27:19 +0100 <EvanR> stringly typed languages ftw
2025-01-27 05:27:50 +0100 <int-e> EvanR: It's probably too much information, but `unwords` is unironically superior to repeated ++ " " ++ that often appear in manual formatting of several values.
2025-01-27 05:28:00 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2025-01-27 05:28:07 +0100 <EvanR> why is that
2025-01-27 05:28:28 +0100 <int-e> in terms of writing the code :P
2025-01-27 05:28:43 +0100 <EvanR> hmm
2025-01-27 05:28:53 +0100 <int-e> also, that's an opinion, ymmv
2025-01-27 05:30:06 +0100aforemny(~aforemny@i577B125E.versanet.de) aforemny
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2025-01-27 05:31:51 +0100 <int-e> % putStrLn it
2025-01-27 05:31:51 +0100 <yahb2> 42 'q'
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2025-01-27 05:33:06 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> go Tikosh
2025-01-27 05:34:09 +0100 <Tikosh> yea?
2025-01-27 05:34:41 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> go go go, have fun
2025-01-27 05:35:02 +0100 <Tikosh> oh! you want me to leave. okay!
2025-01-27 05:35:13 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> no, I'm saying good work :)
2025-01-27 05:35:15 +0100 <int-e> nah
2025-01-27 05:35:20 +0100 <int-e> he's cheering you on
2025-01-27 05:35:29 +0100 <int-e> or trying to; it became awkward somehow
2025-01-27 05:35:29 +0100 <Tikosh> oh! lol! thank you!
2025-01-27 05:35:39 +0100 <Tikosh> no i get it.
2025-01-27 05:35:45 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> I'm not very good at chat 🤣
2025-01-27 05:36:14 +0100 <Tikosh> no worries
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2025-01-27 06:20:23 +0100 <probie> If English isn't your first language, "go" as an exhortation wishing success probably looks very weird. It makes much more sense as the tail-recursive "loop" for a function
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2025-01-27 06:40:50 +0100 <monochrom> \go -> go go o
2025-01-27 06:40:59 +0100 <monochrom> @type \go -> go go go
2025-01-27 06:41:00 +0100 <lambdabot> error:
2025-01-27 06:41:00 +0100 <lambdabot> • Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type:
2025-01-27 06:41:00 +0100 <lambdabot> t ~ t -> t1 -> t2
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2025-01-27 06:45:08 +0100 <probie> :t \(go :: forall a . a -> a) -> go go go
2025-01-27 06:45:09 +0100 <lambdabot> (forall a1. a1 -> a1) -> a -> a
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2025-01-27 09:14:49 +0100 <lisbeths`> are people in #haskell very familiar with binary lambda calculus?
2025-01-27 09:15:54 +0100xelxebar(~xelxebar@wilsonb.com) xelxebar
2025-01-27 09:16:08 +0100 <probie> What does "very familiar" mean? I probably can't read a non-trivial expression and reduce with pen and paper (or a computer)
2025-01-27 09:16:20 +0100 <probie> s/with pen/without pen/
2025-01-27 09:16:55 +0100 <lisbeths`> I wrote a language that compiles to binary lambda calculus
2025-01-27 09:17:15 +0100 <lisbeths`> so it can be embedded into haskell and haskell can be embedded into it
2025-01-27 09:20:49 +0100Smiles(uid551636@id-551636.lymington.irccloud.com) Smiles
2025-01-27 09:30:37 +0100 <dminuoso> Sounds like a fun project
2025-01-27 09:30:51 +0100 <dminuoso> How much of Haskell do you support?
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2025-01-27 09:32:49 +0100 <lisbeths`> It should be compatible with the purely functional parts
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2025-01-27 09:36:12 +0100 <dminuoso> lisbeths`: Do you just compile system FC to binary lambda calculus then?
2025-01-27 09:37:14 +0100tnt2(~Thunderbi@user/tnt1) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-01-27 09:37:22 +0100 <dminuoso> Just wondering whether "purely functional parts" includes all of GADTs.
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2025-01-27 09:38:47 +0100 <dminuoso> By extension that would include things like ConstraintKinds
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2025-01-27 10:00:57 +0100 <lisbeths`> dminuoso: system fc?
2025-01-27 10:02:28 +0100 <probie> System F with type equality
2025-01-27 10:02:46 +0100 <lisbeths`> binary lambda calculus can bootstraps system F or any type system that you'd like
2025-01-27 10:03:01 +0100 <probie> So can a turing machine
2025-01-27 10:03:16 +0100 <lisbeths`> indeed
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2025-01-27 10:03:34 +0100 <lisbeths`> This is about making a very small purely functional language in the order of under 8 megabytes
2025-01-27 10:05:51 +0100 <lisbeths`> like what if you want a purely functional programming language to go into smartdust computers with very low computing power
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