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2025-01-25 00:24:25 +0100 <Leary> hellwolf: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/ghc-bignum-1.3/docs/GHC-Num-Integer.html#v:integerToMutableByt…
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2025-01-25 00:49:40 +0100 <hellwolf> does anyone know how to use TH to express a list of constraints in its quotation form: [d| instance ($(mapM (pure . TH.conT ''ABITypeable) xs)) => ABITypeable $(tpl) where ... |]
2025-01-25 00:49:57 +0100 <hellwolf> I know how to do it without the quotation form, but that's not so read.
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2025-01-25 00:56:14 +0100 <c_wraith> There are lots of places you just can't splice into. That might be one of them.
2025-01-25 00:57:41 +0100 <c_wraith> though that mapM (pure . blah) is kind of funny.
2025-01-25 00:57:55 +0100 <c_wraith> that'd be like... pure (map blah ...)
2025-01-25 01:01:08 +0100 <hellwolf> I actually found it
2025-01-25 01:01:57 +0100 <hellwolf> just need to use TH.tupleT
2025-01-25 01:02:03 +0100 <hellwolf> which kinda makes sense.
2025-01-25 01:02:27 +0100 <hellwolf> although the TH.instanceD uses a list, which looked easier.
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2025-01-25 01:07:28 +0100 <hellwolf> that makes me want to rewrite some of my instances' TH to use quotation form... looks much nicer
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2025-01-25 01:31:09 +0100 <hellwolf> well, another haskell trvia: the maximum TupleN that has a Show instance is N=15 ... per https://hackage.haskell.org/package/ghc-internal-9.1201.0/docs/src/GHC.Internal.Show.html#line-328
2025-01-25 01:31:52 +0100 <hellwolf> I just found out. Since I have been supporting TupleN up to 64
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2025-01-25 01:31:55 +0100bitdex(~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) bitdex
2025-01-25 01:31:58 +0100 <c_wraith> yeah, the spec doesn't require instances very far. GHC exceeds the requirements. The spec requires that 63-tuples exist, but not that they have instances
2025-01-25 01:32:18 +0100 <hellwolf> what is the "spec" do you mean?
2025-01-25 01:32:29 +0100 <c_wraith> Haskell 2010
2025-01-25 01:32:35 +0100 <hellwolf> interesting
2025-01-25 01:32:59 +0100 <hellwolf> people really don't like TH, I guess.
2025-01-25 01:33:13 +0100 <hellwolf> but TH is noticeably slow indeed.
2025-01-25 01:33:16 +0100 <geekosaur> tbh anything beyond 2 or possibly 3 (term level) is generally a bad idea
2025-01-25 01:34:43 +0100 <hellwolf> I am tempted to agree.
2025-01-25 01:35:18 +0100 <geekosaur> you almost always want a named record for anything bigger, just to keep things straight
2025-01-25 01:35:40 +0100 <hellwolf> but typing a :* b :* c :* Nil is more awkward then (a,b,c). And I wish tuple typed as NP is more native.
2025-01-25 01:36:13 +0100 <hellwolf> I don't disagree. I am just pushing envelopes here and see what happens.
2025-01-25 01:37:14 +0100 <hellwolf> if it's typed as NP, there is no reason for Tuple to exist as a type. Am I missing something?
2025-01-25 01:37:48 +0100 <hellwolf> I am supporting TupleN simply for human's sake
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2025-01-25 04:20:54 +0100 <haskellbridge> <thirdofmay18081814goya> any good readings on async, maybe how it can be interpreted monadically?
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2025-01-25 04:23:50 +0100 <haskellbridge> <thirdofmay18081814goya> i guess it can be interpreted in a state monad that accounts for whether a value has returned at each tick (tick being defined however it might be meaningful in a given context)
2025-01-25 04:24:33 +0100 <geekosaur> @where parconc
2025-01-25 04:24:33 +0100 <lambdabot> https://www.safaribooksonline.com/library/view/parallel-and-concurrent/9781449335939/
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2025-01-25 04:27:11 +0100 <haskellbridge> <thirdofmay18081814goya> ah will give that a read, ty (also state monad is not a good idea because we don't do update)
2025-01-25 04:27:48 +0100 <haskellbridge> <thirdofmay18081814goya> the real world does so we're in IO somewhere
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2025-01-25 04:40:40 +0100 <geekosaur> if we're talking about the same async, (a) it has to be in IO to start threads (b) it does keep "state" (thread status)
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2025-01-25 04:43:43 +0100 <haskellbridge> <thirdofmay18081814goya> hm right
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