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| 2026-07-02 06:15:20 +0000 | Techcable | (sid534393@user/Techcable) Techcable |
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| 2026-07-02 06:24:27 +0000 | henricus | absentia |
| 2026-07-02 06:24:33 +0000 | absentia | (~henricus@user/institor) (Changing host) |
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| 2026-07-02 06:56:17 +0000 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@2a02:3100:5b85:cc00:4e50:ddff:fe9b:8922) CiaoSen |
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| 2026-07-02 07:42:17 +0000 | emmanuelux | (~em@user/emmanuelux) (Quit: bye) |
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| 2026-07-02 10:02:17 +0000 | Techcable | (sid534393@user/Techcable) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
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| 2026-07-02 14:26:03 +0000 | emilym | (~Thunderbi@user/emilym) emilym |
| 2026-07-02 14:40:04 +0000 | <absentia> | this is horrific |
| 2026-07-02 14:40:10 +0000 | <absentia> | i hope i'm not just being taken for a ride by LLM hallucination |
| 2026-07-02 14:40:19 +0000 | <absentia> | but profiling the code i was griping about a few days ago takes me to |
| 2026-07-02 14:40:25 +0000 | <absentia> | libPQ as a main cost center |
| 2026-07-02 14:40:49 +0000 | <absentia> | supposedly Hasql.Pipeline might struggle with heavy workloads if the send and recv buffers fill, leading to potential deadlock conditions |
| 2026-07-02 14:41:00 +0000 | <absentia> | but my parser is 0.1% of CPU burn |
| 2026-07-02 14:41:03 +0000 | <absentia> | i don't see excessive allocation |
| 2026-07-02 14:41:09 +0000 | <absentia> | most of the cost is in the Hasql call tree |
| 2026-07-02 14:41:15 +0000 | <absentia> | this is ridiculous |
| 2026-07-02 14:41:21 +0000 | <absentia> | i may just import libpq myself and COPY the data in at this point |
| 2026-07-02 14:41:41 +0000 | <absentia> | i replatformed my bot from debian bullseye to trixie, vacated the old VPS, updated the stack resolver from lts22 to lts24 |
| 2026-07-02 14:41:49 +0000 | <absentia> | just to get a later version of Hasql for its pipeline query support |
| 2026-07-02 14:41:52 +0000 | <absentia> | and it turns out |
| 2026-07-02 14:41:57 +0000 | <absentia> | that is the exact bottleneck |
| 2026-07-02 14:42:00 +0000 | <absentia> | if my reasoning is correct, at least |
| 2026-07-02 14:42:07 +0000 | <absentia> | smh my head |
| 2026-07-02 14:42:17 +0000 | <absentia> | i've been banging my head against a table for days |
| 2026-07-02 14:42:25 +0000 | <absentia> | wondering how a measly 2000 INSERTs can take |
| 2026-07-02 14:42:27 +0000 | <absentia> | one hour |
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| 2026-07-02 15:51:40 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | absentia: so an update of the Hasql library fixed your performance woes? |
| 2026-07-02 15:53:21 +0000 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:39b7:4dd7:ef94:da89) |
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| 2026-07-02 15:55:10 +0000 | davidlbowman | (~davidlbow@user/davidlbowman) davidlbowman |
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| 2026-07-02 15:56:23 +0000 | maerwald | (~maerwald@user/maerwald) maerwald |
| 2026-07-02 15:56:47 +0000 | <absentia> | no |
| 2026-07-02 15:57:03 +0000 | <absentia> | the update was in fact totally useless |
| 2026-07-02 15:58:23 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | so what's the hypothesis, that Hasql.Pipeline doesn't actually pipeline? Or that it's very slow at doing so? Or that it drives libPQ inefficiently? |
| 2026-07-02 15:58:37 +0000 | <absentia> | probably the latter two |
| 2026-07-02 15:58:51 +0000 | <absentia> | i'm sampling pg_stat_activity every few seconds and it's just waiting on the client to issue more statements in the session |
| 2026-07-02 15:58:54 +0000 | <absentia> | no actual DB load |
| 2026-07-02 15:59:00 +0000 | <absentia> | the parser i measured is 0.1% of CPU burn |
| 2026-07-02 15:59:04 +0000 | <absentia> | all the real cost centers are somewhere in hasql |
| 2026-07-02 15:59:29 +0000 | <absentia> | ugh |
| 2026-07-02 15:59:35 +0000 | <absentia> | maybe i should profile the heap as well and check allocations/GC |
| 2026-07-02 15:59:41 +0000 | <absentia> | maybe that doesn't show up in +RTS -p |
| 2026-07-02 15:59:59 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | it does, right? |
| 2026-07-02 16:00:08 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | columns 3 and 4 of the numeric columns |
| 2026-07-02 16:00:15 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | (iirc) |
| 2026-07-02 16:00:32 +0000 | <absentia> | oh right |
| 2026-07-02 16:01:03 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | have you tried making a minimal reproducer of this problem? Given the hypothesis, that should not be complicated |
| 2026-07-02 16:01:10 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | (apart from having to set up a new database etc) |
| 2026-07-02 16:02:23 +0000 | <absentia> | sigh |
| 2026-07-02 16:02:29 +0000 | <absentia> | i probably could |
| 2026-07-02 16:02:34 +0000 | <absentia> | maybe it would make for a nice bug report |
| 2026-07-02 16:02:37 +0000 | <absentia> | and maybe i could even fix it |
| 2026-07-02 16:02:45 +0000 | <absentia> | hnngh... |
| 2026-07-02 16:04:42 +0000 | <absentia> | i can't do this any more |
| 2026-07-02 16:04:49 +0000 | <absentia> | i need a break from this problem but i am so frustrated/obsessed |
| 2026-07-02 16:04:51 +0000 | <absentia> | it should be UTTERLY TRIVIAL |
| 2026-07-02 16:04:54 +0000 | <absentia> | smfh |
| 2026-07-02 16:04:58 +0000 | <absentia> | i wish i had a cigarette |
| 2026-07-02 16:05:01 +0000 | <absentia> | need to feel something burning |
| 2026-07-02 16:05:09 +0000 | <absentia> | maybe this software |
| 2026-07-02 16:06:03 +0000 | <absentia> | should make a fucking docker image |
| 2026-07-02 16:06:07 +0000 | <absentia> | and exhibit the issue |
| 2026-07-02 16:06:12 +0000 | <absentia> | because hasql is actually a fantastic library |
| 2026-07-02 16:08:58 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 253 seconds) |
| 2026-07-02 16:10:35 +0000 | Googulator71 | Googulator |
| 2026-07-02 16:14:51 +0000 | Lord_of_Life | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Excess Flood) |
| 2026-07-02 16:16:43 +0000 | Lord_of_Life | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life |
| 2026-07-02 16:18:38 +0000 | <probie> | Are you sure it's not something silly like forgetting to commit a transaction? |
| 2026-07-02 16:23:17 +0000 | <absentia> | fuck. |
| 2026-07-02 16:23:19 +0000 | <absentia> | i may be an idiot. |
| 2026-07-02 16:23:28 +0000 | <absentia> | i used what is a NON-retrying STM operation |
| 2026-07-02 16:23:44 +0000 | <absentia> | thinking it would block and retry if no transactions were committed to STM |
| 2026-07-02 16:23:48 +0000 | <absentia> | it was in fact busy looping |
| 2026-07-02 16:23:52 +0000 | <absentia> | implying mass allocation and CPU burn to GC |
| 2026-07-02 16:23:59 +0000 | <absentia> | the cost centers in Hasql were a red herring |
| 2026-07-02 16:24:05 +0000 | <absentia> | i replaced the busyloop with a properly retrying version |
| 2026-07-02 16:24:12 +0000 | <absentia> | and now i'm seeing moderate traffic to the DB through pg_stat_activity |
| 2026-07-02 16:24:22 +0000 | <absentia> | i bet if i put a pipeline back in it might improve throughput by reducing roundtrips |
| 2026-07-02 16:25:01 +0000 | <absentia> | i do admit i had to rubberduck this with GLM 5.2 |
| 2026-07-02 16:25:16 +0000 | <absentia> | lots of red herrings but eventually steered to a solution with measurable improvement |
| 2026-07-02 16:26:15 +0000 | <absentia> | this is extremely embarassing |
| 2026-07-02 16:26:25 +0000 | <absentia> | this means that function has been working like that, busy looping and maxxing CPU, for like |
| 2026-07-02 16:26:28 +0000 | <absentia> | months, if not years... |
| 2026-07-02 16:26:49 +0000 | <absentia> | bot still had OK latency though... i would hope so if it's checking the damn queue every couple nanoseconds.. |
| 2026-07-02 16:33:17 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | absentia: what do you mean with a non-retrying STM operation? |
| 2026-07-02 16:33:59 +0000 | <absentia> | very concretely, this one |
| 2026-07-02 16:34:01 +0000 | <absentia> | > https://hackage.haskell.org/package/stm-2.5.3.1/docs/Control-Concurrent-STM-TQueue.html#v:flushTQu… |
| 2026-07-02 16:34:02 +0000 | <lambdabot> | Not in scope: ‘TQueue.html#’ |
| 2026-07-02 16:34:02 +0000 | <lambdabot> | NB: no module named ‘TQueue’ is imported. |
| 2026-07-02 16:34:05 +0000 | <absentia> | > Efficiently read the entire contents of a TQueue into a list. This function never retries. |
| 2026-07-02 16:34:07 +0000 | <lambdabot> | <hint>:1:38: error: parse error on input `of' |
| 2026-07-02 16:34:42 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | what does "this function never retries" even mean |
| 2026-07-02 16:34:49 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | it's just two readTVar and two writeTVar |
| 2026-07-02 16:34:59 +0000 | emilym | (~Thunderbi@user/emilym) emilym |
| 2026-07-02 16:35:07 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | oh right, no _retry_ |
| 2026-07-02 16:35:52 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | absentia: assuming you mean with "if no transactions were committed to STM" that the TQueue is empty, then flushTQueue should just return an empty list |
| 2026-07-02 16:36:13 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | flushTQueue should only spin if it's seeing high contention on the queue |
| 2026-07-02 16:36:46 +0000 | <absentia> | but won't it return an empty list like |
| 2026-07-02 16:36:49 +0000 | <absentia> | millions of times a secon |
| 2026-07-02 16:36:51 +0000 | <absentia> | d |
| 2026-07-02 16:36:55 +0000 | tomsmeding | wonders what flushTQueue would do if it did retry; can't think of anything sensible |
| 2026-07-02 16:37:07 +0000 | <absentia> | well if the list is empty |
| 2026-07-02 16:37:13 +0000 | <absentia> | block until the TQueue changes |
| 2026-07-02 16:37:17 +0000 | ft | (~ft@p4fc2a871.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) ft |
| 2026-07-02 16:37:24 +0000 | <absentia> | instead of checking again the instant you get CPU time |
| 2026-07-02 16:37:25 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | but why on earth would you do that |
| 2026-07-02 16:37:41 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | if I want the contents of the queue as a list, and the queue is empty, I want an empty list |
| 2026-07-02 16:37:46 +0000 | <absentia> | right |
| 2026-07-02 16:37:50 +0000 | <EvanR> | that's normally what STM retry does, block until something changes |
| 2026-07-02 16:37:52 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | but anyway, flushTQueue runs in STM; what are you doing with its result afterwards? |
| 2026-07-02 16:37:56 +0000 | <absentia> | and if it's empty, i don't do anything |
| 2026-07-02 16:38:02 +0000 | <absentia> | i wait until the TQueue changes |
| 2026-07-02 16:38:09 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | otherwise I'm not sure how it can "return an empty list millions of times |
| 2026-07-02 16:38:11 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | " |
| 2026-07-02 16:38:14 +0000 | <absentia> | instead of checking again immediately, irrespective of whether or not something has changed |
| 2026-07-02 16:38:14 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | how do you wait? |
| 2026-07-02 16:38:22 +0000 | <absentia> | tomsmeding: with `retry` |
| 2026-07-02 16:38:24 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | right |
| 2026-07-02 16:38:31 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | but shouldn't that just work fine |
| 2026-07-02 16:38:37 +0000 | <absentia> | that's what i'm doing now |
| 2026-07-02 16:38:43 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | `do l <- flushTQueue q; when (null l) retry; return l` |
| 2026-07-02 16:38:46 +0000 | <absentia> | exactly |
| 2026-07-02 16:38:50 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | what were you doing before |
| 2026-07-02 16:38:54 +0000 | <absentia> | previously it would just flush the queue and iterate over a possibly empty collection |
| 2026-07-02 16:38:57 +0000 | <absentia> | then check again |
| 2026-07-02 16:38:59 +0000 | <absentia> | then again |
| 2026-07-02 16:39:01 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | _ah_ |
| 2026-07-02 16:39:24 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | forever $ do l <- atomically (flushTQueue q); handle l |
| 2026-07-02 16:39:28 +0000 | <absentia> | yeah |
| 2026-07-02 16:39:30 +0000 | <absentia> | basically |
| 2026-07-02 16:39:47 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | well yes that busy-loops, but I'm not sure how that would tank performance |
| 2026-07-02 16:39:48 +0000 | <int-e> | absentia: congrats on finding that, thanks for sharing |
| 2026-07-02 16:39:56 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | int-e++ |
| 2026-07-02 16:40:46 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | running an STM transaction in a busy loop can tank performance if it contests other transactions and thus results in many more failures across the application than there would otherwise be |
| 2026-07-02 16:41:20 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | but it will only contest anything if it read something non-empty, because otherwise it'll only readTVar, and readTVar doesn't contest with anything |
| 2026-07-02 16:41:24 +0000 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect |
| 2026-07-02 16:41:26 +0000 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-07-02 16:41:33 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | s/contest with anything/contest anything/ |
| 2026-07-02 16:42:13 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | so I guess this busy loop can make every _second_ write fail with high probability, but then when that second write restarts, it should likely succeed |
| 2026-07-02 16:42:31 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | succeeding on the second attempt is not too bad |
| 2026-07-02 16:43:03 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | still, the only thing I can imagine here is STM contention, so that's a very interesting bug you found :) |
| 2026-07-02 16:43:33 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | it's _the_ primary failure more of STM as a concurrency synchronisation/communication system |
| 2026-07-02 16:44:27 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | (a mutex guarantees forward progress if the thread holding the mutex is not descheduled from the processor; STM may get arbitrary levels of contention in the worst case, where there is no forward progress even if all relevant threads are scheduled) |
| 2026-07-02 16:46:18 +0000 | danza | (~danza@user/danza) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-07-02 16:46:41 +0000 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:39b7:4dd7:ef94:da89) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2026-07-02 16:51:23 +0000 | <int-e> | Hmm, maybe just having a tight allocating loop that adds heap pressure is enough? Or maybe handling empty lists still comes with a cost. |
| 2026-07-02 16:52:32 +0000 | emilym | (~Thunderbi@user/emilym) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-07-02 16:52:47 +0000 | emilym | (~Thunderbi@user/emilym) emilym |
| 2026-07-02 16:52:59 +0000 | <absentia> | yes well thank you for humoring my inane rants |
| 2026-07-02 16:53:02 +0000 | <absentia> | this was quite the journey |
| 2026-07-02 16:53:26 +0000 | <absentia> | if i had profiled first, as i knew i should have, i wouldn't have gone on some wild goose chases.. |
| 2026-07-02 16:55:15 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | absentia: I fully admit that even though performance can be untransparent in all languages, it's especially likely to be so in haskell |
| 2026-07-02 16:55:45 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | and profiling is sometimes more difficult than in other languages for laziness and cost attribution reasons |
| 2026-07-02 16:56:02 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | so I get your frustration :p |
| 2026-07-02 16:59:09 +0000 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:39b7:4dd7:ef94:da89) |
| 2026-07-02 17:10:14 +0000 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:39b7:4dd7:ef94:da89) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
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| 2026-07-02 17:30:26 +0000 | chymera | (~chymera@ns1000526.ip-51-81-46.us) chymera |
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| 2026-07-02 17:48:01 +0000 | target_i | (~target_i@user/target-i/x-6023099) target_i |