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| 2024-12-24 00:11:40 +0100 | <hellwolf> | ski, show instance is actually "correct", I am sticking a weird domain where U256 means 256 bits. |
| 2024-12-24 00:11:40 +0100 | <hellwolf> | and thanks for your hint using case of, the TH code is actually quite easy, I have it done: https://play.haskell.org/saved/Hdf3hnIp |
| 2024-12-24 00:12:41 +0100 | <hellwolf> | still feel herculean, but now that I wrote couple of big TH code, it feels rather mechanical |
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| 2024-12-24 01:03:06 +0100 | Lears | Leary |
| 2024-12-24 01:03:11 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> ski: these comments have suddenly made sense to me, thank you very much again! |
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| 2024-12-24 01:04:21 +0100 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) user363627 |
| 2024-12-24 01:05:59 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> it suddenly made sense because as I was thinking about FRP, I realized, under the interpretation you give "[] Gamma |- A -> [] Gamma |- [] A" encodes that "[] Gamma" is sequence-independent in allowing the circuit to propagate to the next term, "A" |
| 2024-12-24 01:07:36 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> i.e., that implication provides the semantics for: "it doesn't matter the order in which you evaluate/propagate through this part of the secret, it will yield "A" anyways |
| 2024-12-24 01:07:45 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> * anyways" |
| 2024-12-24 01:08:02 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> of the context*, don't know why I said of the secret |
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| 2024-12-24 01:35:04 +0100 | <loonycyborg> | what would be the best way currently to make a compile-time mapping from strings to types? |
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| 2024-12-24 01:37:20 +0100 | <loonycyborg> | seems use case I have in mind mostly asks for "extensible records", but I don't care about order at all |
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| 2024-12-24 01:57:02 +0100 | <monochrom> | GHC has type-level string literals. |
| 2024-12-24 01:57:12 +0100 | Feuermagier_ | (~Feuermagi@user/feuermagier) Feuermagier |
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| 2024-12-24 01:57:12 +0100 | Feuermagier_ | Feuermagier |
| 2024-12-24 01:59:24 +0100 | <EvanR> | yes the string itself is a type of kind Symbol |
| 2024-12-24 02:00:31 +0100 | <EvanR> | there's "I don't care about order" and "we need the types to enforce nobody not even god can care about order" |
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| 2024-12-24 02:00:42 +0100 | Feuermagier_ | Feuermagier |
| 2024-12-24 02:00:50 +0100 | <EvanR> | the first ones easier |
| 2024-12-24 02:03:19 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2024-12-24 02:03:23 +0100 | <loonycyborg> | I was thinking more of " I don't care about order so I can do hashmap" but not sure how it applies to compile-time |
| 2024-12-24 02:06:09 +0100 | <loonycyborg> | Seems I can use string literals at compile time with -XDataKinds and -XTypeFamilies but not sure if it's best way currently |
| 2024-12-24 02:06:24 +0100 | <loonycyborg> | or how I can extract things back to runtime when needed |
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| 2024-12-24 02:08:11 +0100 | <loonycyborg> | this really reminds me of C++ template magic though |
| 2024-12-24 02:08:51 +0100 | poscat0x04 | (~poscat@user/poscat) (Quit: Bye) |
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| 2024-12-24 02:11:03 +0100 | <geekosaur> | KnownSymbol and singletons (blech) |
| 2024-12-24 02:11:27 +0100 | <geekosaur> | you really want Idris or Agda; Haskell doesn't have a real dependent types story as yet |
| 2024-12-24 02:11:58 +0100 | <geekosaur> | ("dependent types" = types that depend on runtime values, not just the other way around) |
| 2024-12-24 02:12:11 +0100 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) poscat |
| 2024-12-24 02:13:13 +0100 | <EvanR> | KnownSymbol lets you have the corresponding String at runtime |
| 2024-12-24 02:13:19 +0100 | <geekosaur> | also Haskell's type system isn't really up to things like hashmaps; the best it can do is linked lists |
| 2024-12-24 02:13:20 +0100 | <EvanR> | similar to KnownNat |
| 2024-12-24 02:13:30 +0100 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2024-12-24 02:13:53 +0100 | <loonycyborg> | I was thinking to use array at runtime and calculate indices for it at runtime |
| 2024-12-24 02:13:53 +0100 | son0p | (~ff@186.121.100.67) son0p |
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| 2024-12-24 02:14:03 +0100 | <loonycyborg> | at *compile time |
| 2024-12-24 02:14:07 +0100 | <EvanR> | if you're feeling nuts you might have success implementing a binary tree in the type system which serves the same purpose |
| 2024-12-24 02:14:21 +0100 | <EvanR> | but a list is probably the most realistic |
| 2024-12-24 02:14:52 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-12-24 02:14:57 +0100 | <EvanR> | if you literally don't care about order, then a list still works |