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| 2024-11-05 00:56:42 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zwro> monochrom: main = print 1 |
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| 2024-11-05 02:14:00 +0100 | <sclv> | Inst: servant has a special helper just for your use case of exposing a directory https://hackage.haskell.org/package/servant-server-0.20.2/docs/Servant-Server-StaticFiles.html#v:s… |
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| 2024-11-05 04:28:15 +0100 | <arahael> | I'm attempting to install haskell on debian trixie. However, ghcup installs the wrong version. |
| 2024-11-05 04:28:32 +0100 | <arahael> | It's installing the version for bookworm instead. |
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| 2024-11-05 04:41:06 +0100 | <geekosaur> | afaict there isn't one for trixie |
| 2024-11-05 04:41:11 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-11-05 04:41:26 +0100 | <arahael> | Hmm, so I should stick with the distro-provided ghc and cabal et al. |
| 2024-11-05 04:41:49 +0100 | <arahael> | Or use distrobox and get myself setup with bookworm I guess. |
| 2024-11-05 04:42:13 +0100 | <geekosaur> | there are two debian distributions in the ghcup metadata from what I saw, if neither is compatible then you'll have to file a bug about getting a compatible build |
| 2024-11-05 04:42:19 +0100 | terrorjack4 | (~terrorjac@2a01:4f8:c17:dc9f::) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) |
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| 2024-11-05 04:42:35 +0100 | <arahael> | What are those two debians? |
| 2024-11-05 04:43:04 +0100 | <arahael> | I suppose it's possible ghcup don't want to support a testing release until it's properly released as stable? |
| 2024-11-05 04:43:10 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I see "< 10" and ">= 10" |
| 2024-11-05 04:43:26 +0100 | <arahael> | That's... Interesting. |
| 2024-11-05 04:43:53 +0100 | <arahael> | By contrast, I saw that ghcup instructed me to install packages that no-longer exist, and tried to install for version 11. |
| 2024-11-05 04:43:59 +0100 | <arahael> | (And I'm on version 12 - trixie) |
| 2024-11-05 04:44:00 +0100 | terrorjack4 | (~terrorjac@2a01:4f8:c17:dc9f::) terrorjack |
| 2024-11-05 04:45:33 +0100 | troojg | (~troojg@user/troojg) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-11-05 04:45:46 +0100 | <geekosaur> | sorry, once I get to a modern version it's three (<10, 10, >=11) |
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| 2024-11-05 04:46:29 +0100 | <arahael> | Ah, that makes sense again, then. |
| 2024-11-05 04:46:45 +0100 | <arahael> | I could give it a go, regardless, and try the 'bookworm' version. |
| 2024-11-05 04:49:20 +0100 | <arahael> | Ah, it seems to be a little inconsistent - some of the packages are for bookworm, and some are for trixie. |
| 2024-11-05 04:49:53 +0100 | <arahael> | ghci> putStrLn "Hello World!" |
| 2024-11-05 04:49:55 +0100 | <arahael> | Hello World! |
| 2024-11-05 04:49:57 +0100 | <arahael> | All good! |
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| 2024-11-05 10:09:06 +0100 | <Inst> | is Text `Either` Bool cancerous? |
| 2024-11-05 10:09:13 +0100 | <Inst> | or is it an actually acceptable use of Haskell syntax? |
| 2024-11-05 10:10:02 +0100 | <Inst> | also, where's the config for default fixity / precedence when you backtick a function? |
| 2024-11-05 10:11:09 +0100 | <kaol> | I get "Illegal term-level use of the type constructor or class ‘Either’" when I try anything like that. |
| 2024-11-05 10:13:22 +0100 | <Leary> | Type level or not doesn't make a difference; infix is fine iff the identifier is suitably named. "a `Or` b" would be fine, but "a `Either` b" isn't. |
| 2024-11-05 10:13:44 +0100 | <Leary> | Anyway, you can always just `type (+) = Either`. |
| 2024-11-05 10:15:30 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | arahael: I guess ghcup doesn't provide versions for newer distro versions because 1. the older ones work and 2. fewer distribution artifacts lightens the load on release managers / CI infra etc. :) |
| 2024-11-05 10:19:24 +0100 | <geekosaur> | last I heard Julian was doing his own builds on the default channel, so I imagine adding extra ones would be even more work for him. (The vanilla channel contains upstream-provided builds.) |
| 2024-11-05 10:19:28 +0100 | <Inst> | I heard people complaining about `type ($) a b = a b |
| 2024-11-05 10:20:03 +0100 | <geekosaur> | how much of that is complaining about `($)` in general? |
| 2024-11-05 10:20:15 +0100 | <Inst> | kaol: try :k instead of :t |
| 2024-11-05 10:20:51 +0100 | <Inst> | I don't know, but tbh anti-parens crusade, and the ridiculously we do with crazy stuff like do bulleting |
| 2024-11-05 10:21:03 +0100 | <Inst> | *riduculousness |
| 2024-11-05 10:21:19 +0100 | <geekosaur> | anyway I think it's acceptable to the compiler (at type level, of course) but it makes code harder to read |
| 2024-11-05 10:21:36 +0100 | <Inst> | Haskell 98 apparently defaults to infixl 9, section seems missing in Haskell 2010, though |
| 2024-11-05 10:22:04 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I strongly prefer to save operator syntax for things that are actually operator-like |
| 2024-11-05 10:22:27 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> I think there is beauty in '$ <$> <$ $> <_> <_ *> >>= >=> <=<` |
| 2024-11-05 10:22:38 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> * >=< |
| 2024-11-05 10:22:46 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> * "$ \<$> \<$ $> \<_\> \<_ \*> >>= >=\< \<=\<\" |
| 2024-11-05 10:22:53 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> * <$> <$ $> <_> <_ *> >>= >=< <=<" |
| 2024-11-05 10:23:12 +0100 | <geekosaur> | https://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/haskellch4.html#x10-820004.4.2 |
| 2024-11-05 10:23:15 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> * "$, <$>, <$, $>, <_>, <_, *>, >>=, >=<, |
| 2024-11-05 10:23:27 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> * <*, |
| 2024-11-05 10:23:42 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> * >=>, |
| 2024-11-05 10:23:55 +0100 | <geekosaur> | ugh, those edits are cancer IRC-side |
| 2024-11-05 10:24:09 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> sorry, I forget this is IRC channel, I was aware of it. |
| 2024-11-05 10:24:28 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | (isn't "cancer" a bit overblown?) |
| 2024-11-05 10:24:46 +0100 | haskellbridge | hellwolf slaps myself with a large trout in good old IRC fashion |
| 2024-11-05 10:24:46 +0100 | <Inst> | (.) doesn't seem to work that well on type level, though |
| 2024-11-05 10:24:47 +0100 | <Inst> | sorry |
| 2024-11-05 10:24:53 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | (though yes it's ugly and fairly unreadable sometimes) |
| 2024-11-05 10:25:05 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | Inst: it's called Compose |
| 2024-11-05 10:25:06 +0100 | <Inst> | the problem is that Either is supposed to be the standard sum type |
| 2024-11-05 10:25:09 +0100 | <Inst> | ah |
| 2024-11-05 10:25:13 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | but it's a newtype |
| 2024-11-05 10:25:14 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it's too overloaded, I suspect, especially given `forall …. .` |
| 2024-11-05 10:25:51 +0100 | <arahael> | tomsmeding: That does make sense. Was just a bit confusing. |
| 2024-11-05 10:25:52 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | in general, in haskell, if a type synonym / family thing doesn't work too well in haskell, an extra newtype layer often fixes things |
| 2024-11-05 10:25:52 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> "(.)" |
| 2024-11-05 10:25:52 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | ... long message truncated: https://kf8nh.com/_heisenbridge/media/kf8nh.com/KtvFpYdPnvlljZESVtlFKcjB/LggDqDvOMGc (7 lines) |
| 2024-11-05 10:25:58 +0100 | geekosaur | needs to try to go back to bed |
| 2024-11-05 10:26:04 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> I alwsy remember when Edward Kmett blew my mind with those combinators |
| 2024-11-05 10:26:21 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | hellwolf: (.) = fmap, so (.) . (.) = fmap fmap fmap |
| 2024-11-05 10:26:30 +0100 | <Inst> | good luck, and don't stress too much today, it'll be over when it's over, and it's over in 4-8 years afterwards anyways |
| 2024-11-05 10:27:03 +0100 | Digitteknohippie | Digit |
| 2024-11-05 10:27:03 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> no, (.) != fmap. I just double checked with hoogle ;) |
| 2024-11-05 10:27:30 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | :t (.) . (.) |
| 2024-11-05 10:27:31 +0100 | <lambdabot> | (b -> c) -> (a1 -> a2 -> b) -> a1 -> a2 -> c |
| 2024-11-05 10:27:33 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | :t fmap fmap fmap |
| 2024-11-05 10:27:34 +0100 | <lambdabot> | (Functor f1, Functor f2) => (a -> b) -> f1 (f2 a) -> f1 (f2 b) |
| 2024-11-05 10:27:35 +0100 | rvalue | (~rvalue@user/rvalue) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-11-05 10:27:36 +0100 | <Inst> | (.) = fmap for instance Functor (r ->) |
| 2024-11-05 10:27:51 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | now set (f1 ~ (->) a1) and (f2 ~ (->) a2) |
| 2024-11-05 10:28:04 +0100 | rvalue | (~rvalue@user/rvalue) rvalue |
| 2024-11-05 10:31:48 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> https://kf8nh.com/_heisenbridge/media/matrix.org/xKUfmoznwCHkVefPSdGMuRsW/vGfaLYyIYNk/image.png |
| 2024-11-05 10:31:53 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> Hope screenshot works for IRC users too. |
| 2024-11-05 10:32:19 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | we get a link :) (wait a minute and it'll show up here https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lchaskell?events_page=13963 ) |
| 2024-11-05 10:32:44 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> sorry for not sorry for the digress. I figured it's an IRC channel, I can get away with some interjections. |
| 2024-11-05 10:32:46 +0100 | haskellbridge | hellwolf duck now |
| 2024-11-05 10:33:47 +0100 | <kaol> | Some people just want to see the world burn. Like by redefining map = fmap = (.). |
| 2024-11-05 10:35:22 +0100 | <kaol> | Just to get "(+1) . [1,2,3]". Not confusing at all. |
| 2024-11-05 10:35:45 +0100 | <Inst> | . is confusing, tbh |
| 2024-11-05 10:36:10 +0100 | <Inst> | you can remember it's supposed to resemble the composition operator in math, but there's a dozen other things it's used in computer science |
| 2024-11-05 10:36:21 +0100 | <Inst> | it's also used for Module.bindingInModule |
| 2024-11-05 10:36:33 +0100 | <Inst> | and RecordDotSyntax |
| 2024-11-05 10:38:23 +0100 | <kaol> | That's just syntax. I'm thinking of type level mayhem. |
| 2024-11-05 10:38:38 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> . to ∘ is simplified chinese to traditional chinese. |
| 2024-11-05 10:38:52 +0100 | <merijn> | RecordDotSyntax exists solely to make Haskell's relatively clean grammar a confusing nightmare hellscape |
| 2024-11-05 10:39:17 +0100 | <kaol> | I'll happily never use it myself. |
| 2024-11-05 10:39:26 +0100 | <merijn> | It's a bad extension that should feel bad about itself >.< |
| 2024-11-05 10:41:02 +0100 | <Inst> | nice analogy, given that o takes forever to type whereas . is a keyboard default |
| 2024-11-05 10:41:26 +0100 | <Inst> | (since simplified Chinese, among other things, makes Chinese far faster to write in non-cursive forms) |
| 2024-11-05 10:42:30 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> 书 / 書 (book) |
| 2024-11-05 10:42:30 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 广 / 廣 (wide, adj.) |
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| 2024-11-05 11:29:25 +0100 | ash3en1 | ash3en |
| 2024-11-05 11:29:42 +0100 | <probie> | Handwriting is one thing, but it's the same amount of effort to type 马 as 馬 |
| 2024-11-05 11:31:32 +0100 | kronicmage | (~kronicmag@neotame.csclub.uwaterloo.ca) kronicmage |
| 2024-11-05 11:34:08 +0100 | <probie> | . is slightly easier to type than ∘, but with a proper input method, it's not _much_ harder. My normal setup for writing unicode maths characters in code is based on Agda's input method, so it's just `\o` (two key presses) |
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| 2024-11-05 11:45:45 +0100 | ash3en1 | ash3en |
| 2024-11-05 11:53:16 +0100 | kuribas | (~user@ip-188-118-57-242.reverse.destiny.be) kuribas |
| 2024-11-05 11:53:53 +0100 | <kuribas> | Is an ADT a category? |
| 2024-11-05 11:54:00 +0100 | <kuribas> | Then mapping an ADT into another one would be a functor? |
| 2024-11-05 11:56:16 +0100 | supercode | (~supercode@user/supercode) supercode |
| 2024-11-05 12:03:14 +0100 | harveypwca | (~harveypwc@2601:246:d080:b40:1889:d9bf:2dd8:b288) HarveyPwca |
| 2024-11-05 12:03:15 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | kuribas: if it's a category, then what are its objects and its arrows? |
| 2024-11-05 12:04:53 +0100 | <kuribas> | tomsmeding: Arrows are the products and sums I suppose? |
| 2024-11-05 12:05:03 +0100 | <kuribas> | Objects are the types? |
| 2024-11-05 12:05:35 +0100 | <ncf> | ?? |
| 2024-11-05 12:05:35 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | the "standard" example of a category in the context of FP is: objects are types, arrows (morphisms) are functions |
| 2024-11-05 12:05:58 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | it works because the identity function is a thing at each type (i.e. on each object), and functions compose |
| 2024-11-05 12:06:10 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | an ADT would be one object in that category |
| 2024-11-05 12:06:53 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | kuribas: are you trying to encapsulate some kind of structure in a function from one ADT to another, more than there is in "any function"? |
| 2024-11-05 12:07:01 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-11-05 12:07:59 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | if so, then perhaps the concept of an F-algebra is what you are looking for |
| 2024-11-05 12:08:04 +0100 | <kuribas> | tomsmeding: I am reading the "databases as categories" article: https://math.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Applied_Mathematics/Seven_Sketches_in_Compositionality%3A_…(Fong_and_Spivak)/03%3A_Databases-_Categories_functors_and_(co)limits/3.03%3A_Functors_natural_transformations_and_databases |
| 2024-11-05 12:08:11 +0100 | <kuribas> | I wonder if that works for ADTs too. |
| 2024-11-05 12:08:28 +0100 | <kuribas> | So I could transform an ADT to a database table, using a functor. |
| 2024-11-05 12:08:42 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | how on Earth does an ADT correspond to a database table? :p |
| 2024-11-05 12:09:36 +0100 | <kuribas> | An ORM for example. |
| 2024-11-05 12:10:08 +0100 | tomsmeding | is out of comfort zone |
| 2024-11-05 12:10:31 +0100 | <Inst> | wait, do database tables support sum types? |
| 2024-11-05 12:10:43 +0100 | <Inst> | as in, can a database table be in one of two different schemas? |
| 2024-11-05 12:11:06 +0100 | tomsmeding | has no clue what's going on on that page |
| 2024-11-05 12:11:11 +0100 | tomsmeding | sneaks off |
| 2024-11-05 12:11:38 +0100 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:fc69:912f:320c:e811) |
| 2024-11-05 12:11:59 +0100 | <ncf> | this is the most programmer-brained introduction to presheaves i have ever seen |
| 2024-11-05 12:14:30 +0100 | supercode | (~supercode@user/supercode) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2024-11-05 12:14:40 +0100 | <probie> | Inst: If it's not a normal relational database, then sum types may be easily supported :p. If you want to model it in a relational database and don't want to risk being two variants at once, you can have n columns, each being a nullable foreign key to that variant's table, and a constraint that exactly one of those columns is not null |
| 2024-11-05 12:14:44 +0100 | <ncf> | Inst: as long as you can come up with a notion of homomorphism between instances of different schemas, sure ("there are none" is a valid answer) |
| 2024-11-05 12:15:26 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> I recalled a talk from "David Spivak: Categorical Databases". I appreciate people's relentless searches of composition, especially from mathematicians (Bartosz Milewski, et. al.) ... but sometimes someone just gotta find a concrete use case that others can understand and apply the insights. |
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| 2024-11-05 15:18:30 +0100 | <iphy> | {-# LANGUAGE DeriveFunctor #-} |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:30 +0100 | <iphy> | {-# LANGUAGE DeriveGeneric #-} |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:30 +0100 | <iphy> | {-# LANGUAGE DerivingVia #-} |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:30 +0100 | <iphy> | {-# LANGUAGE StrictData #-} |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:30 +0100 | <iphy> | {-# LANGUAGE TypeOperators #-} |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:31 +0100 | <iphy> | module Language.Cimple.Annot |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:31 +0100 | <iphy> | ( AnnotF (..) |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:32 +0100 | <iphy> | ) where |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:33 +0100 | <iphy> | import Data.Fix (Fix, hoistFix) |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:33 +0100 | <iphy> | import Data.Functor.Classes (Eq1, Read1, Show1) |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:34 +0100 | <iphy> | import Data.Functor.Classes.Generic (FunctorClassesDefault (..)) |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:34 +0100 | <iphy> | import Data.Functor.Compose (Compose (..)) |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:35 +0100 | <iphy> | import GHC.Generics (Generic, Generic1) |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:36 +0100 | <iphy> | data AnnotF attr a = Annot { attr :: attr, unAnnot :: a } |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:36 +0100 | <iphy> | deriving (Functor, Generic, Generic1) |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:37 +0100 | <iphy> | deriving (Show1, Read1, Eq1) via FunctorClassesDefault (AnnotF attr) |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:42 +0100 | <iphy> | oops, sorry |
| 2024-11-05 15:18:50 +0100 | <iphy> | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/dwAsXj9Z/ |
| 2024-11-05 15:19:30 +0100 | <iphy> | this is not working on ghc 9.6.5 anymore, but it works on 9.4.3. am I doing something wrong? is there something new I need to do for this? |
| 2024-11-05 15:20:23 +0100 | <iphy> | this is the error https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VqT6CteH/error |
| 2024-11-05 15:22:59 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | iphy: is it the ghc version that makes the difference, or the version of some library? Are you using the same version of transformers-compat in both cases? |
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| 2024-11-05 15:29:37 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | iphy: compiles for me if I add (Show, Read, Eq) to the first deriving clause |
| 2024-11-05 15:32:45 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | my conjecture is that 9.6 changed its handling of quantified constraints, in particular the one in the superclass list of GEq1 https://hackage.haskell.org/package/transformers-compat-0.7.2/docs/Data-Functor-Classes-Generic-In… |
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| 2024-11-05 15:43:00 +0100 | <iphy> | Good question, I haven't checked the versions |
| 2024-11-05 15:43:05 +0100 | <iphy> | But thanks, I'll try that |
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| 2024-11-05 16:23:02 +0100 | <Leonard26> | Hello! =D I was wondering if in Haskell there is a way to simulate pointers like in C/C++? |
| 2024-11-05 16:23:02 +0100 | <Leonard26> | Particularly I am interested in reproducing this piece of code |
| 2024-11-05 16:23:03 +0100 | <Leonard26> | static GstElement *cur_effect; |
| 2024-11-05 16:23:03 +0100 | <Leonard26> | I'm not sure how it is even called in C, I've only learned Haskell up so far, from what I understand it's some type of static variable? |
| 2024-11-05 16:25:07 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> IO MVar? |
