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2024-11-11 05:43:53 +0100 <neuroevolutus> Has anyone else noticed that the Haskell Wiki appears broken on their browsers? I tested with the following link: https://wiki.haskell.org/Main_Page
2024-11-11 05:43:54 +0100 <neuroevolutus> It seems to be rendering in plaintext without any of the MediaWiki formatting.
2024-11-11 05:44:36 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2024-11-11 05:45:46 +0100 <Axman6> There's been some issues with the wiki in the past week
2024-11-11 05:49:07 +0100 <neuroevolutus> Oh, I see. I hope the maintainers will be able to resolve whatever issues the site's having. It's honestly a fantastic resource!
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2024-11-11 05:53:04 +0100 <Axman6> they had issues with the disk filling up, last I heard. Not sure where the fix for that got to
2024-11-11 05:53:09 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> Taking a loong time
2024-11-11 05:55:18 +0100 <Axman6> https://haskell-status.joyful.com if you want to keep an eye on it
2024-11-11 05:55:34 +0100 <Axman6> sm: <3
2024-11-11 05:57:27 +0100 <int-e> https://status.haskell.org/ still says a system upgrade went wrong and they're working on it. I guess little if anything happened over the weekend.
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2024-11-11 07:12:21 +0100 <forwales> I am trying to work out the exercise quest 1 from Ch7 of haskell programming from first principles. When I query the type of mTh = \x -> \y -> \z -> x * y * z, I got mTh :: Integer -> Integer -> Integer -> Integer
2024-11-11 07:13:32 +0100 <forwales> Why it is not mTh :: Num a => a -> a -> a -> a ?
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2024-11-11 07:27:46 +0100 <sshine> too late
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2024-11-11 09:34:52 +0100 <dpk> the Haskell wiki seems to be broken https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/8LVZbiof/Screenshot%202024-11-11%20at%2009.34.35.png
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2024-11-11 09:39:08 +0100 <kaol> It is known.
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2024-11-11 12:11:20 +0100 <yin> is this an instance of "tying the knot"? `(m,mls) = foldr (\x (mx,ls') -> (max x mx,mls:ls')) (0,[]) ls`
2024-11-11 12:12:56 +0100 <yin> oops i made a typo
2024-11-11 12:15:39 +0100 <yin> (m,mls) = foldr (\x (mx,ls') -> (max x mx,m:ls')) (0,[]) ls
2024-11-11 12:16:31 +0100 <yin> -- are we "tying the knot" on m?
2024-11-11 12:16:42 +0100merijn(~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2024-11-11 12:18:23 +0100 <ncf> i think usually "tying the knot" means building a cyclic data structure?
2024-11-11 12:18:29 +0100 <ncf> so, no
2024-11-11 12:20:57 +0100 <ncf> i guess it could also mean circular programming more generally, in which case yess
2024-11-11 12:21:01 +0100 <ncf> yes*
2024-11-11 12:21:32 +0100 <ncf> e.g. as used here https://doisinkidney.com/posts/2018-12-18-traversing-graphs.html
2024-11-11 12:22:27 +0100xff0x(~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:d852:39eb:7a5e:9b9f)
2024-11-11 12:22:30 +0100 <ncf> in this case the knot would be the usual diagram for the trace operator i guess
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2024-11-11 12:23:39 +0100mari-estel(~mari-este@user/mari-estel) mari-estel
2024-11-11 12:24:06 +0100 <mauke> > let (m,mls) = foldr (\x (mx,ls') -> (max x mx,m:ls')) (0,[]) ls; ls = [1,2,3] in mls
2024-11-11 12:24:07 +0100 <ncf> this one (slide 121) https://www.irif.fr/~mellies/mpri/mpri-m2/mpri-mellies-slides-3.pdf
2024-11-11 12:24:08 +0100 <lambdabot> [3,3,3]
2024-11-11 12:24:24 +0100NN12(~NN12@31.154.179.218) (Quit: Client closed)
2024-11-11 12:24:28 +0100 <mauke> > let (m,mls) = foldr (\x (mx,ls') -> (max x mx,m:ls')) (0,[]) ls; ls = [1 ..] in length (take 3 mls)
2024-11-11 12:24:35 +0100 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
2024-11-11 12:24:55 +0100 <mauke> > let (m,mls) = foldr (\x ~(mx,ls') -> (max x mx,m:ls')) (0,[]) ls; ls = [1 ..] in length (take 3 mls)
2024-11-11 12:24:57 +0100 <lambdabot> 3
2024-11-11 12:25:03 +0100 <mauke> that's what I thought
2024-11-11 12:26:23 +0100supercode(~supercode@user/supercode) supercode
2024-11-11 12:26:33 +0100 <yin> mauke: what did you think?
2024-11-11 12:27:43 +0100 <mauke> that your function was too strict
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2024-11-11 12:29:47 +0100merijn(~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn
2024-11-11 12:30:23 +0100Leonard26(~Leonard26@49.236.10.26)
2024-11-11 12:31:39 +0100Leonard76(~Leonard26@49.236.10.26)
2024-11-11 12:34:23 +0100 <Leonard76> Hello! =D How are you?
2024-11-11 12:34:24 +0100 <Leonard76> I am trying to understand the Functor monad a little bit better. I found this stack post https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27197419/haskell-functors?rq=3 and I'm now trying to "take it apart" bit by bit. I am however stuck at the `reduce` function. I am implementing this in ghci like so https://paste.tomsmeding.com/YeMX4fJ6.
2024-11-11 12:35:41 +0100Leonard26(~Leonard26@49.236.10.26) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2024-11-11 12:36:35 +0100 <Leonard76> I don't know what the arguments of `reduce` might be, I have tried with `reduce (Map.fromList [(5,"c"), (3,"b")])` but it outputs this error log https://paste.tomsmeding.com/XFaWSEif , I don't know how to move forwards from here =L
2024-11-11 12:37:12 +0100merijn(~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2024-11-11 12:38:14 +0100 <mauke> what's a functor monad
2024-11-11 12:38:56 +0100 <Leonard76> sorry, just the functor
2024-11-11 12:40:33 +0100 <mauke> type is reduce :: MyMap String [Int] -> MyMap String Int
2024-11-11 12:40:44 +0100 <mauke> so the input must be a map whose values are lists of ints
2024-11-11 12:42:11 +0100 <mauke> actually, there are two errors
2024-11-11 12:42:20 +0100 <mauke> you're passing a Map, but the function expects a MyMap
2024-11-11 12:43:18 +0100 <Leonard76> I tried giving it a list of ints but it outputs this error https://paste.tomsmeding.com/VFyOE5Or
2024-11-11 12:43:36 +0100 <Leonard76> Yes I've also noticed that error
2024-11-11 12:44:14 +0100youthlic(~Thunderbi@user/youthlic) (Remote host closed the connection)
2024-11-11 12:44:46 +0100 <Leonard76> This is what it says when I try to give it a MyMap https://paste.tomsmeding.com/KxW8xotW
2024-11-11 12:44:58 +0100 <mauke> Leonard76: https://play-haskell.tomsmeding.com/saved/Kmp64Ubg
2024-11-11 12:45:25 +0100 <mauke> MyMap.fromList does not exist. there is no module called MyMap in your code
2024-11-11 12:45:36 +0100merijn(~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn
2024-11-11 12:45:38 +0100 <mauke> your first attempt is wrong because it uses lists of ints as keys, not values
2024-11-11 12:46:24 +0100youthlic(~Thunderbi@user/youthlic) youthlic
2024-11-11 12:46:53 +0100 <Leonard76> Thank you for your quick answer, I'm going to look into it now :)
2024-11-11 12:47:46 +0100 <mauke> actually, https://play-haskell.tomsmeding.com/saved/bpe3NAbH might be more sensible
2024-11-11 12:47:55 +0100 <mauke> or at least easier to read because the lines are shorter :-)
2024-11-11 12:48:17 +0100 <Leonard76> Thank you :)
2024-11-11 12:49:57 +0100visilii_(~visilii@85.172.77.14)
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2024-11-11 12:58:38 +0100 <yin> mauke: can you make it work with infinite lists?
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2024-11-11 13:04:49 +0100ChaiTRex(~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) ChaiTRex
2024-11-11 13:06:06 +0100 <mauke> I thought I did. but define "work"
2024-11-11 13:09:49 +0100Leonard76(~Leonard26@49.236.10.26) (Quit: Client closed)
2024-11-11 13:20:02 +0100 <yin> get the list, not just its length
2024-11-11 13:21:04 +0100 <yin> > let (m,mls) = foldr (\x ~(mx,ls') -> (max x mx,m:ls)) (0,[]) [0..] in take 3 mls
2024-11-11 13:21:05 +0100 <lambdabot> error:
2024-11-11 13:21:05 +0100 <lambdabot> • Variable not in scope: ls :: [a1]
2024-11-11 13:21:05 +0100 <lambdabot> • Perhaps you meant one of these:
2024-11-11 13:21:15 +0100alexherbo2(~alexherbo@2a02-8440-3212-95c5-b466-a96b-5a6c-41ad.rev.sfr.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
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2024-11-11 13:21:38 +0100 <yin> > let (m,mls) = foldr (\x ~(mx,ls') -> (max x mx,m:ls')) (0,[]) [0..] in take 3 mls
2024-11-11 13:21:45 +0100 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
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2024-11-11 13:33:50 +0100longlongdouble(~longlongd@117.234.82.14)
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2024-11-11 13:39:39 +0100Smiles(uid551636@id-551636.lymington.irccloud.com) Smiles
2024-11-11 13:40:40 +0100 <lxsameer> is it just me or haskell's wiki seems to be down for a while now
2024-11-11 13:41:27 +0100manwithluck(manwithluc@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/manwithluck) manwithluck
2024-11-11 13:42:31 +0100supercode(~supercode@user/supercode) (Quit: Client closed)
2024-11-11 13:43:34 +0100 <yin> lxsameer: yes
2024-11-11 13:44:03 +0100 <yin> https://status.haskell.org/
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2024-11-11 14:02:13 +0100liamzy__(~Inst@user/Inst) Inst
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2024-11-11 14:29:24 +0100 <mauke> yin: the list elements don't exist
2024-11-11 14:29:40 +0100 <mauke> they're the maximum of an infinite list, which requires scanning every element, which doesn't terminate
2024-11-11 14:31:01 +0100 <yin> right
2024-11-11 14:31:29 +0100 <yin> so my function is just the right ammount of strict :)
2024-11-11 14:31:52 +0100 <Rembane> Goldilocks laziness!
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2024-11-11 14:34:16 +0100 <yin> lol
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2024-11-11 14:37:33 +0100 <yin> > let x = undefined in length [x]
2024-11-11 14:37:35 +0100 <lambdabot> 1
2024-11-11 14:37:40 +0100 <yin> > let x = undefined in length [x :: ()]
2024-11-11 14:37:42 +0100 <lambdabot> 1
2024-11-11 14:37:50 +0100 <yin> > length [undefined]
2024-11-11 14:37:51 +0100 <lambdabot> 1
2024-11-11 14:38:18 +0100 <yin> > length [undefined..]
2024-11-11 14:38:20 +0100 <lambdabot> error:
2024-11-11 14:38:20 +0100 <lambdabot> • Ambiguous type variable ‘a0’ arising from the arithmetic sequence ‘und...
2024-11-11 14:38:20 +0100 <lambdabot> prevents the constraint ‘(Enum a0)’ from being solved.
2024-11-11 14:38:26 +0100 <yin> > length [undefined :: () ..]
2024-11-11 14:38:27 +0100 <lambdabot> *Exception: Prelude.undefined
2024-11-11 14:38:30 +0100 <yin> this is weird
2024-11-11 14:38:39 +0100 <probie> Why is it weird?
2024-11-11 14:39:09 +0100 <probie> > length (enumFrom (undefined :: ()))
2024-11-11 14:39:10 +0100 <lambdabot> *Exception: Prelude.undefined
2024-11-11 14:39:20 +0100 <mauke> because () enumFrom has no need to be strict
2024-11-11 14:39:51 +0100 <yin> mauke: yes
2024-11-11 14:43:02 +0100 <monochrom> You could also go on to argue that 0*undefined and undefined*0 have no reason to be strict.
2024-11-11 14:45:49 +0100 <probie> > length $ take 1 [undefined :: () ..]
2024-11-11 14:45:50 +0100 <lambdabot> *Exception: Prelude.undefined
2024-11-11 14:46:45 +0100 <probie> Huh, that's stricter than the docs suggested implementation of `enumFrom n = n : enumFrom (succ n)`
2024-11-11 14:47:04 +0100 <probie> > length $ take 1 $ enumFrom (undefined :: ())
2024-11-11 14:47:06 +0100 <lambdabot> *Exception: Prelude.undefined
2024-11-11 14:47:27 +0100 <probie> > let enumFrom n = n : enumFrom (succ n) in length $ take 1 $ enumFrom (undefined :: ())
2024-11-11 14:47:28 +0100 <lambdabot> 1
2024-11-11 14:50:18 +0100 <bwe> echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH returns /opt/homebrew/opt/icu4c@76/lib/pkgconfig
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2024-11-11 14:50:41 +0100 <bwe> yet I still get: ld: warning: search path '/usr/local/opt/icu4c/lib' not found
2024-11-11 14:51:07 +0100 <bwe> using cabal here - what do I need to do to let cabal know the right path?
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2024-11-11 16:03:44 +0100 <Leonard73> Hello! =D
2024-11-11 16:03:44 +0100 <Leonard73> I am trying to understand the functor typeclass, I am looking at the implementation for the data type Map in https://hackage.haskell.org/package/containers-0.4.0.0/docs/Data-Map.html
2024-11-11 16:03:45 +0100 <Leonard73> I can't seem to understand what the `m` stands for in the instance declaration https://paste.tomsmeding.com/TutDaoum
2024-11-11 16:03:45 +0100 <Leonard73> Can you help me?
2024-11-11 16:04:47 +0100Leonard26(~Leonard26@49.236.10.26) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2024-11-11 16:09:10 +0100 <Leonard73> Could it just be the second parameter?
2024-11-11 16:10:26 +0100 <Hecate> Leonard73: m stands for the Map that you're applying the function in
2024-11-11 16:10:57 +0100 <probie> `fmap` takes two arguments. The first is the function you're applying (called `f` here) and the second is the `Map` you're applying it to (called `m` here)
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2024-11-11 16:11:54 +0100 <Leonard73> Ok, thank you
2024-11-11 16:12:25 +0100 <probie> also, just to avoid any confusion, the call to `map` in that definition isn't to the `map` defined in the Prelude, it's `map f = mapWithKey (\_ x -> f x)`
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2024-11-11 16:13:26 +0100 <Leonard73> Oh, ok, thanks. I thought it was from Prelude :)
2024-11-11 16:13:31 +0100 <haskellbridge> <maralorn> Is there a way to avoid CPP by switching between two different Haskell source files depending on a Cabal flag?
2024-11-11 16:13:37 +0100 <merijn> Map from Prelude only works on lists
2024-11-11 16:14:03 +0100 <Leonard73> ok, thanks
2024-11-11 16:15:01 +0100 <merijn> maralorn: I don't think you can entirely avoid CCP that way
2024-11-11 16:15:48 +0100 <haskellbridge> <maralorn> I thought maybe I could do it by gating the src-dir parameter behind the flag?
2024-11-11 16:16:04 +0100 <haskellbridge> <maralorn> i.e. deliver two completely different components depending on the flag.
2024-11-11 16:19:41 +0100 <Leonard73> @probie why is it `map f = mapWithKey (\_ x -> f x )` and not just `map`? Not the one from the Prelude, the one from the same package
2024-11-11 16:19:41 +0100 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
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2024-11-11 16:33:05 +0100 <Leonard73> Also, are you sure that is not from Prelude? Because I have an example here that seems to be using `map` from Prelude, maybe I'm wrong tho. https://play-haskell.tomsmeding.com/saved/bpe3NAbH
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2024-11-11 17:36:10 +0100 <EvanR> Leonard73, in that example you don't use "map" at all, much less the one from Prelude
2024-11-11 17:37:18 +0100 <EvanR> don't get confused by capitalization, capital Map is a datatype and lowercase map is a function on lists
2024-11-11 17:37:57 +0100 <EvanR> ok I missed the place where you use "map", yeah it's from prelude
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2024-11-11 17:40:16 +0100 <EvanR> Leonard73, in the Functor instance you pasted, it comes from a source file where Prelude map is hidden and another function with the same name is defined
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2024-11-11 17:40:43 +0100 <EvanR> that context didn't make it into the paste
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2024-11-11 18:16:15 +0100 <Leonard26> EvanR, ok thank you. The paste came from someone else in the chat, I didn't know
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