| 2024-09-19 00:00:20 +0200 | <Zer000> | mauke, oh so it's how my list gets used? |
| 2024-09-19 00:01:08 +0200 | <Zer000> | You're probably right... maybe i should profile my program then |
| 2024-09-19 00:02:22 +0200 | <int-e> | hmmm https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell/2009-April/021173.html references the motto :P |
| 2024-09-19 00:02:30 +0200 | <Rembane> | int-e: Good stuff! :D |
| 2024-09-19 00:02:51 +0200 | <c_wraith> | Zer000: note that that line creates a list that's only three elements long. did you want [x, y .. z] instead? |
| 2024-09-19 00:03:43 +0200 | <mauke> | <Zer000> and my code isn't even right, it's building a list with three things in it, but I wanted to use the [n1, n2...n] syntax |
| 2024-09-19 00:03:51 +0200 | <c_wraith> | oh, whoops |
| 2024-09-19 00:04:09 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2024-09-19 00:04:59 +0200 | <Zer000> | magic_rb are you replying to me from matrix? I got confused by the briding for a second |
| 2024-09-19 00:05:26 +0200 | <Zer000> | you guys should use the matrix appservices bridge IMO it's way better but slightly more annoying to set up |
| 2024-09-19 00:05:39 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> Zer000 yes is it showing up weirdly on the irc side? |
| 2024-09-19 00:05:50 +0200 | <Zer000> | It looks like someone is replying to you |
| 2024-09-19 00:06:10 +0200 | <int-e> | Tge motto appears in these slides from 2003. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/wearing-hair-shirt-retrospective-haskell-2003/ (via https://es.costashine-autospa.com/wg-cgi/marc.info/?l=haskell-cafe&m=120491982137885&w=2 ) |
| 2024-09-19 00:06:10 +0200 | <Zer000> | Like this: haskellbridge: <magic_rb> Zer000 yes is it showing up weirdly on the irc side? |
| 2024-09-19 00:06:49 +0200 | <int-e> | hmm, that second link is suspicious, should be https://marc.info/?l=haskell-cafe&m=120491982137885&w=2 |
| 2024-09-19 00:07:21 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> Zer000 ah, i should finally get around to using heisenbridge to interact with this room, works much better in my experience |
| 2024-09-19 00:08:02 +0200 | <Rembane> | int-e: This gets even better! Thank you! |
| 2024-09-19 00:10:19 +0200 | Squared | (~Square@user/square) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-09-19 00:11:06 +0200 | <int-e> | That timing feels about right to me; my memory isn't good enough to say whether the motto was conceived then or has an earlier origin. |
| 2024-09-19 00:11:16 +0200 | dhruvasagar | (~dhruvasag@49.207.204.156) |
| 2024-09-19 00:11:20 +0200 | <monochrom> | Haha "gives too much power to implementers?" came true. |
| 2024-09-19 00:12:39 +0200 | <Rembane> | The most powerful implementers! |
| 2024-09-19 00:12:40 +0200 | <int-e> | hugs was still alive in 2003 |
| 2024-09-19 00:13:26 +0200 | <int-e> | Heck we had a cambric explosion of Haskell compilers for a while. Darwin killed them all or something. |
| 2024-09-19 00:14:48 +0200 | <Rembane> | Too few lovely islands for them to thrive? |
| 2024-09-19 00:14:55 +0200 | EvanR | sues GHC for being a monopoly |
| 2024-09-19 00:15:52 +0200 | dhruvasagar | (~dhruvasag@49.207.204.156) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-09-19 00:16:12 +0200 | <int-e> | (Realistically none of them had much staying power, and people who would've implemented Haskell around 2000 are now implementing new languages instead. A trend that maybe started with Clean? I don't really know, but it's an early example that I remember.) |
| 2024-09-19 00:16:48 +0200 | <Rembane> | That seems reasonable. And I think it's better for the world to have more languages rather than having more implementations of Haskell. |
| 2024-09-19 00:17:35 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 2024-09-19 00:18:53 +0200 | <JuanDaugherty> | the hybrids thrived in niches, curry e.g. |
| 2024-09-19 00:19:58 +0200 | <JuanDaugherty> | u need a uni with a renewable labor pool |
| 2024-09-19 00:20:44 +0200 | <JuanDaugherty> | and not just some guy in a dept |
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| 2024-09-19 01:03:43 +0200 | <c_wraith> | can you allow-newer a native dependency? |
| 2024-09-19 01:04:55 +0200 | <c_wraith> | the cairo package seems to depend on librsvg-2.0 < 2.51 and debian stable currently packages 2.54 |
| 2024-09-19 01:05:21 +0200 | acidjnk | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e72cfb224ccb10fade5fa5a7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-09-19 01:05:34 +0200 | <c_wraith> | err. the svgcairo package. |
| 2024-09-19 01:05:35 +0200 | dolio | (~dolio@130.44.140.168) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) |
| 2024-09-19 01:06:17 +0200 | <c_wraith> | Huh. I suppose I could have just tried. It seems to be trying to build now, at least. |
| 2024-09-19 01:06:22 +0200 | Sgeo | (~Sgeo@user/sgeo) |
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| 2024-09-19 01:08:54 +0200 | remedan_ | (~remedan@ip-62-245-108-153.bb.vodafone.cz) (Quit: Bye!) |
| 2024-09-19 01:09:11 +0200 | <c_wraith> | didn't actually work. Seems it's not passing correct flags to pkg-config. |
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| 2024-09-19 01:53:13 +0200 | Axma52822 | Axman6 |
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| 2024-09-19 03:22:10 +0200 | <blober> | Based on https://hackage.haskell.org/package/HsYAML-0.2.1.4/docs/Data-YAML.html#g:3 , I don't get how |
| 2024-09-19 03:22:11 +0200 | <blober> | ``` |
| 2024-09-19 03:22:11 +0200 | <blober> | example = decode1 "- 1\n- 2" :: Either (Pos, String) [Int] |
| 2024-09-19 03:22:12 +0200 | <blober> | ``` |
| 2024-09-19 03:22:12 +0200 | <blober> | the above works, but this doesn't |
| 2024-09-19 03:22:13 +0200 | <blober> | ``` |
| 2024-09-19 03:22:13 +0200 | <blober> | my_example = decode1 "- foo" :: Either (Pos, String) [String] |
| 2024-09-19 03:22:14 +0200 | <blober> | ``` |
| 2024-09-19 03:22:15 +0200 | <blober> | ``` |
| 2024-09-19 03:22:15 +0200 | <blober> | • No instance for ‘FromYAML Char’ arising from a use of ‘decode1’ |
| 2024-09-19 03:22:16 +0200 | <blober> | ``` |
| 2024-09-19 03:22:42 +0200 | xff0x | (~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp) |
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| 2024-09-19 03:31:08 +0200 | zzz | zero |
| 2024-09-19 03:31:16 +0200 | <Axman6> | blober: Does using [Text] work? |
| 2024-09-19 03:31:50 +0200 | <Axman6> | because I think it's actually expecting to parse [[Char]] which is where that error is coming from |
| 2024-09-19 03:32:44 +0200 | <Axman6> | since there's no isntance for FromYAML for Char it doesn't even get to the point of trying to parse. |
| 2024-09-19 03:33:42 +0200 | dhruvasagar | (~dhruvasag@49.207.204.156) |
| 2024-09-19 03:33:44 +0200 | <blober> | yes, you were correct |
| 2024-09-19 03:38:20 +0200 | <blober> | can you preserve comments when dumping yaml? I see there was some work in https://github.com/haskell-hvr/HsYAML/pull/24 but not sure how to use it |
| 2024-09-19 03:47:27 +0200 | rosco | (~rosco@175.136.158.234) (Quit: Lost terminal) |
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| 2024-09-19 03:51:41 +0200 | <Axman6> | I'm not familiar with the library, but it looks like support for comments is in the released version. What do you mean when you say dumping yaml? |