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2024-09-19 00:00:20 +0200 <Zer000> mauke, oh so it's how my list gets used?
2024-09-19 00:01:08 +0200 <Zer000> You're probably right... maybe i should profile my program then
2024-09-19 00:02:22 +0200 <int-e> hmmm https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell/2009-April/021173.html references the motto :P
2024-09-19 00:02:30 +0200 <Rembane> int-e: Good stuff! :D
2024-09-19 00:02:51 +0200 <c_wraith> Zer000: note that that line creates a list that's only three elements long. did you want [x, y .. z] instead?
2024-09-19 00:03:43 +0200 <mauke> <Zer000> and my code isn't even right, it's building a list with three things in it, but I wanted to use the [n1, n2...n] syntax
2024-09-19 00:03:51 +0200 <c_wraith> oh, whoops
2024-09-19 00:04:09 +0200merijn(~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2024-09-19 00:04:59 +0200 <Zer000> magic_rb are you replying to me from matrix? I got confused by the briding for a second
2024-09-19 00:05:26 +0200 <Zer000> you guys should use the matrix appservices bridge IMO it's way better but slightly more annoying to set up
2024-09-19 00:05:39 +0200 <haskellbridge> <magic_rb> Zer000 yes is it showing up weirdly on the irc side?
2024-09-19 00:05:50 +0200 <Zer000> It looks like someone is replying to you
2024-09-19 00:06:10 +0200 <int-e> Tge motto appears in these slides from 2003. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/wearing-hair-shirt-retrospective-haskell-2003/ (via https://es.costashine-autospa.com/wg-cgi/marc.info/?l=haskell-cafe&m=120491982137885&w=2 )
2024-09-19 00:06:10 +0200 <Zer000> Like this: haskellbridge: <magic_rb> Zer000 yes is it showing up weirdly on the irc side?
2024-09-19 00:06:49 +0200 <int-e> hmm, that second link is suspicious, should be https://marc.info/?l=haskell-cafe&m=120491982137885&w=2
2024-09-19 00:07:21 +0200 <haskellbridge> <magic_rb> Zer000 ah, i should finally get around to using heisenbridge to interact with this room, works much better in my experience
2024-09-19 00:08:02 +0200 <Rembane> int-e: This gets even better! Thank you!
2024-09-19 00:10:19 +0200Squared(~Square@user/square) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2024-09-19 00:11:06 +0200 <int-e> That timing feels about right to me; my memory isn't good enough to say whether the motto was conceived then or has an earlier origin.
2024-09-19 00:11:16 +0200dhruvasagar(~dhruvasag@49.207.204.156)
2024-09-19 00:11:20 +0200 <monochrom> Haha "gives too much power to implementers?" came true.
2024-09-19 00:12:39 +0200 <Rembane> The most powerful implementers!
2024-09-19 00:12:40 +0200 <int-e> hugs was still alive in 2003
2024-09-19 00:13:26 +0200 <int-e> Heck we had a cambric explosion of Haskell compilers for a while. Darwin killed them all or something.
2024-09-19 00:14:48 +0200 <Rembane> Too few lovely islands for them to thrive?
2024-09-19 00:14:55 +0200EvanRsues GHC for being a monopoly
2024-09-19 00:15:52 +0200dhruvasagar(~dhruvasag@49.207.204.156) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2024-09-19 00:16:12 +0200 <int-e> (Realistically none of them had much staying power, and people who would've implemented Haskell around 2000 are now implementing new languages instead. A trend that maybe started with Clean? I don't really know, but it's an early example that I remember.)
2024-09-19 00:16:48 +0200 <Rembane> That seems reasonable. And I think it's better for the world to have more languages rather than having more implementations of Haskell.
2024-09-19 00:17:35 +0200merijn(~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl)
2024-09-19 00:18:53 +0200 <JuanDaugherty> the hybrids thrived in niches, curry e.g.
2024-09-19 00:19:58 +0200 <JuanDaugherty> u need a uni with a renewable labor pool
2024-09-19 00:20:44 +0200 <JuanDaugherty> and not just some guy in a dept
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2024-09-19 01:03:43 +0200 <c_wraith> can you allow-newer a native dependency?
2024-09-19 01:04:55 +0200 <c_wraith> the cairo package seems to depend on librsvg-2.0 < 2.51 and debian stable currently packages 2.54
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2024-09-19 01:05:34 +0200 <c_wraith> err. the svgcairo package.
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2024-09-19 01:06:17 +0200 <c_wraith> Huh. I suppose I could have just tried. It seems to be trying to build now, at least.
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2024-09-19 01:09:11 +0200 <c_wraith> didn't actually work. Seems it's not passing correct flags to pkg-config.
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