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2024-09-08 00:04:24 +0200 <dpren_> I'd like to extend a big thanks to this group. My pitch-extractor is back on it's game scraping the depths of youtube for weird musical samples to be performed by me next week.
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2024-09-08 00:13:29 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> hurrah!
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2024-09-08 02:24:14 +0200 <lambdaRule> how to understand this list comprehension?
2024-09-08 02:24:14 +0200 <lambdaRule> arbitrary :: Arbitrary a => Gen a
2024-09-08 02:24:15 +0200 <lambdaRule> vector :: Arbitrary a => Int -> Gen [a]
2024-09-08 02:24:15 +0200 <lambdaRule> vector n = sequence [ arbitrary | i <- [1..n] ]
2024-09-08 02:24:29 +0200 <lambdaRule> what's the purpose of i?
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2024-09-08 02:28:16 +0200 <dmj`> vector n = replicateM n arbitrary
2024-09-08 02:29:07 +0200 <monochrom> Yeah, i is "unused", but [1..n] causes the list to have length n.
2024-09-08 02:29:16 +0200 <monochrom> > [() | i <- [1..10]]
2024-09-08 02:29:18 +0200 <lambdabot> [(),(),(),(),(),(),(),(),(),()]
2024-09-08 02:30:22 +0200 <geekosaur> yeh, I'd've used replicateM instead of the list comprehension
2024-09-08 02:30:47 +0200 <geekosaur> > [() | _ <- [1..10]]
2024-09-08 02:30:49 +0200 <lambdabot> [(),(),(),(),(),(),(),(),(),()]
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2024-09-08 02:31:39 +0200 <geekosaur> @index replicateM
2024-09-08 02:31:39 +0200 <lambdabot> Control.Monad, Data.Sequence
2024-09-08 02:32:07 +0200 <dmj`> @src replicateM
2024-09-08 02:32:07 +0200 <lambdabot> replicateM n x = sequence (replicate n x)
2024-09-08 02:32:37 +0200 <geekosaur> I guess the only reason to use the list comp is to avoid the import. it doesn't even avoid a dependency, since Control.Monad is in base
2024-09-08 02:34:05 +0200 <geekosaur> also note that these examples are a little too oversimplified, since replicate is sufficient for them. but arbitrary requires replicateM, I think
2024-09-08 02:35:06 +0200 <geekosaur> (or sequence, as in your given code)
2024-09-08 02:36:25 +0200 <geekosaur> for that matter, it doesn't even avoid an import since they have to use sequence instead
2024-09-08 02:36:43 +0200 <lambdaRule> thanks for all the info. I searched list comprehension syntax but I haven't found anything. What should I have searched?
2024-09-08 02:37:15 +0200 <lambdaRule> this is some very old code that I
2024-09-08 02:37:25 +0200 <lambdaRule> reading, from QuickCheck
2024-09-08 02:37:29 +0200 <geekosaur> "Haskell list comprehension" (if you don't specify the language, you probably get Python's)
2024-09-08 02:40:49 +0200 <geekosaur> if you got a lot of "x for i in …" then you got Python's list comprehensions, which aren't quite as elaborate as Haskell's but do roughly the same thing
2024-09-08 02:42:41 +0200merijn(~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl)
2024-09-08 02:43:24 +0200 <dmj`> :t enumFromTo
2024-09-08 02:43:25 +0200 <lambdabot> Enum a => a -> a -> [a]
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2024-09-08 03:08:40 +0200 <justsomeguy> Is there some trick for getting used to point-free syntax? It's been a few years and it still throws me off.
2024-09-08 03:09:09 +0200 <EvanR> if it makes no sense just don't do it
2024-09-08 03:09:21 +0200 <justsomeguy> I'm reading it in other peoples code.
2024-09-08 03:09:30 +0200 <EvanR> if it's more complicated than f 0 x . g "ok" . h, I'm out
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2024-09-08 03:10:06 +0200 <justsomeguy> Yeah, there are things like (sequence .) . fmap in this book I'm reading.
2024-09-08 03:10:11 +0200 <EvanR> gross
2024-09-08 03:10:22 +0200 <geekosaur> that's past the point where I throw in the towel, yeh
2024-09-08 03:10:30 +0200 <EvanR> @unpl (f .) . g
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2024-09-08 03:10:30 +0200 <lambdabot> (\ x x0 -> f (g x x0))
2024-09-08 03:10:33 +0200 <geekosaur> "too dotty"
2024-09-08 03:10:59 +0200 <EvanR> \x y -> sequence (fmap x y)
2024-09-08 03:11:04 +0200 <justsomeguy> I wonder if I can get that unpointfree in my IDE somehow. It's probably possible with the LSP.
2024-09-08 03:11:35 +0200 <justsomeguy> Hey, that rhymed!
2024-09-08 03:11:38 +0200 <geekosaur> someone would have to contribute a plugin based on the pointfree package
2024-09-08 03:12:10 +0200 <geekosaur> the main work is already done, just need to hook it in to HLS
2024-09-08 03:14:15 +0200merijn(~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl)
2024-09-08 03:15:38 +0200 <justsomeguy> I'd like to look into writing that once I get out of the "can't code himself out of a wet paper bag" phase.
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