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| 2024-07-05 01:45:10 +0200 | <lain`> | what row polymorphism library are people using? there's like 20 and most of them seem unmaintained |
| 2024-07-05 01:50:34 +0200 | <jackdk> | I get by with HasField constraints from generic-lens |
| 2024-07-05 01:54:57 +0200 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:5277:df26:6b07:8b52) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2024-07-05 02:02:49 +0200 | <monochrom> | I'm drunk so I think we need row polymorphism over those 20 row polymorphism libraries! |
| 2024-07-05 02:02:54 +0200 | <monochrom> | @quote monochrom debate |
| 2024-07-05 02:02:54 +0200 | <lambdabot> | monochrom says: All pointless debates can be settled by going polymorphic. |
| 2024-07-05 02:05:47 +0200 | <EvanR> | celebrating america day? |
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| 2024-07-05 02:34:45 +0200 | <dmj`> | lain`: you'd think the compiler would have that by now |
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| 2024-07-05 04:05:53 +0200 | <jackdk> | I have a record that contains a very large field, and code that tries to overwrite that field with an empty value (so I can keep the record around without a massive space leak), but nothing yet forces the thunk which does the update. Are there any common idioms for forcing a record field? At this stage there are no bang patterns in play |
| 2024-07-05 04:07:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | usually you just declare the field to be strict, I think |
| 2024-07-05 04:07:06 +0200 | <jackdk> | I suppose I could do `let record' = record { field = mempty } in seq (field record') record'` but maybe there's something better? |
| 2024-07-05 04:07:09 +0200 | <jackdk> | yeah ok |
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| 2024-07-05 04:25:21 +0200 | <monochrom> | https://vaibhavsagar.com/blog/2024/07/03/ghci-in-the-browser/ haha "as long as ... you are willing to download ~700MB of WASM." |
| 2024-07-05 04:26:53 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <vaibhavsagar> we really should do something about that |
| 2024-07-05 04:27:18 +0200 | <monochrom> | ohai... heh |
| 2024-07-05 04:27:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | so you can kill the other half of maerwald's phone? 😈 |
| 2024-07-05 04:27:56 +0200 | <monochrom> | hahaha |
| 2024-07-05 04:28:50 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <vaibhavsagar> tbf I don't think that had anything to with the size of the WASM bundle |
| 2024-07-05 04:28:59 +0200 | <jackdk> | vaibhavsagar: just tell them it's an LLM and they'll happily download binary blobs of arbitrary size |
| 2024-07-05 04:29:21 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <vaibhavsagar> that's a stunningly good idea |
| 2024-07-05 04:29:42 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <vaibhavsagar> LLMda |
| 2024-07-05 04:29:58 +0200 | <monochrom> | Hot take: Haskell compiler : small language model :: C++ compiler :: large language model |
| 2024-07-05 04:30:58 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <vaibhavsagar> my WASM blob includes a full installation of g++ |
| 2024-07-05 04:31:10 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <vaibhavsagar> so it should maybe be the other way round |
| 2024-07-05 04:32:02 +0200 | <monochrom> | Oh I'm joking on (small/large language) not (small/large model) :) |
| 2024-07-05 04:32:45 +0200 | <monochrom> | OK so GHC is a large model for a small language, sosad |
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| 2024-07-05 05:46:36 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <aaron> jackdk: Why do you need to force the field? Don't you just need to force record'? |
| 2024-07-05 05:47:43 +0200 | <jackdk> | aaron: it's a record update of a record update, so AIUI I'd need to force the outer field so the inner update happens promptly |
| 2024-07-05 05:52:42 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <aaron> Oh, as in updating a nested record? |
| 2024-07-05 06:00:25 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <aaron> jackdk: for forcing a field I guess you can do let !field = x in record { field } |
| 2024-07-05 06:00:52 +0200 | <jackdk> | Sounds good, thanks |
| 2024-07-05 06:07:56 +0200 | <EvanR> | force field |
| 2024-07-05 06:10:17 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <aaron> -XForceField |
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| 2024-07-05 06:23:40 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <aaron> jackdk: also if you use lenses you can do "set fieldLens $! value" |
| 2024-07-05 06:24:19 +0200 | <jackdk> | that would still need the outer record to be forced via `seq` or something, right? |
| 2024-07-05 06:27:47 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <aaron> er, fieldLens would have to be the lens for the nested record, not the field within it |
| 2024-07-05 06:28:50 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <aaron> wonder if there's a combinator for making a lens strict |
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