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2026-03-15 00:10:34 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 00:11:35 +0100machinedgod(~machinedg@d172-219-48-230.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod
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2026-03-15 00:15:43 +0100bitdex(~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2026-03-15 00:17:31 +0100__monty__(~toonn@user/toonn) (Quit: leaving)
2026-03-15 00:25:56 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2026-03-15 00:33:34 +0100tremon(~tremon@83.80.159.219) (Quit: getting boxed in)
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2026-03-15 00:47:18 +0100Guest62t(~Guest62t@p200300ca8f2b26002bbd6a2e892b4429.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Client closed)
2026-03-15 00:56:08 +0100wickedjargon(~user@S0106f89e28d5699a.vc.shawcable.net) wickedjargon
2026-03-15 00:56:41 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 01:01:32 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2026-03-15 01:09:03 +0100wickedjargon(~user@S0106f89e28d5699a.vc.shawcable.net) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2026-03-15 01:12:03 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2026-03-15 01:27:29 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 01:34:31 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2026-03-15 01:37:41 +0100machinedgod(~machinedg@d172-219-48-230.abhsia.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2026-03-15 01:45:29 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2026-03-15 01:54:14 +0100chexum(~quassel@gateway/tor-sasl/chexum) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2026-03-15 01:54:46 +0100chexum(~quassel@gateway/tor-sasl/chexum) chexum
2026-03-15 02:05:15 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2026-03-15 02:14:39 +0100APic(apic@apic.name) (Quit: brb)
2026-03-15 02:19:20 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2026-03-15 02:25:05 +0100APic(apic@apic.name) APic
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2026-03-15 02:26:52 +0100Tuplanolla(~Tuplanoll@88-114-89-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi) (Quit: Leaving.)
2026-03-15 02:34:41 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 02:38:56 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2026-03-15 02:44:30 +0100humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect
2026-03-15 02:46:19 +0100gabiruh(~gabiruh@vps19177.publiccloud.com.br) (Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in)
2026-03-15 02:46:35 +0100gabiruh(~gabiruh@vps19177.publiccloud.com.br) gabiruh
2026-03-15 02:47:21 +0100wickedjargon(~user@2605:8d80:5430:db35:9897:1236:e613:3e66) wickedjargon
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2026-03-15 02:49:12 +0100tcard(~tcard@2400:4051:5801:7500:cf17:befc:ff82:5303) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2026-03-15 02:50:04 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2026-03-15 02:54:05 +0100CloneOfNone(~CloneOfNo@user/CloneOfNone) CloneOfNone
2026-03-15 02:54:26 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
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2026-03-15 03:05:26 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2026-03-15 03:28:47 +0100acidjnk_new(~acidjnk@p200300d6e700e577005998611a6f2d89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2026-03-15 03:38:50 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 03:40:26 +0100bitdex(~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) bitdex
2026-03-15 03:43:05 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2026-03-15 03:47:45 +0100gabiruh(~gabiruh@vps19177.publiccloud.com.br) (Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in)
2026-03-15 03:51:07 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 03:53:08 +0100gabiruh(~gabiruh@vps19177.publiccloud.com.br) gabiruh
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2026-03-15 03:56:07 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
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2026-03-15 04:03:48 +0100attlin(~user@user/attlin) attlin
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2026-03-15 04:06:30 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 04:07:51 +0100bitdex(~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) (Remote host closed the connection)
2026-03-15 04:08:09 +0100bitdex(~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) bitdex
2026-03-15 04:11:12 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2026-03-15 04:12:21 +0100emmanuelux(~em@user/emmanuelux) emmanuelux
2026-03-15 04:19:53 +0100emmanuelux(~em@user/emmanuelux) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2026-03-15 04:20:44 +0100acidjnk_new(~acidjnk@p200300d6e700e577ac3e0b7a27078302.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
2026-03-15 04:21:52 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2026-03-15 04:31:31 +0100emmanuelux(~em@user/emmanuelux) emmanuelux
2026-03-15 04:37:13 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 04:41:43 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2026-03-15 04:48:09 +0100ZLima12(~zlima12@user/meow/ZLima12) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2026-03-15 04:48:37 +0100ZLima12(~zlima12@user/meow/ZLima12) ZLima12
2026-03-15 04:52:35 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 04:52:57 +0100 <ski> roconnor : someone mentioned something like that, here, a few days ago
2026-03-15 04:57:07 +0100machinedgod(~machinedg@d172-219-48-230.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod
2026-03-15 04:59:43 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2026-03-15 05:00:57 +0100emmanuelux(~em@user/emmanuelux) (Quit: bye)
2026-03-15 05:06:18 +0100emmanuelux(~em@user/emmanuelux) emmanuelux
2026-03-15 05:10:54 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 05:15:36 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2026-03-15 05:18:31 +0100emmanuelux(~em@user/emmanuelux) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2026-03-15 05:21:19 +0100 <roconnor> beginIO (pushIO '>') putCharIO (beginIO getCharIO putCharIO untilEofIO) endIO
2026-03-15 05:26:16 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 05:30:55 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2026-03-15 05:35:21 +0100emmanuelux(~em@user/emmanuelux) emmanuelux
2026-03-15 05:36:59 +0100craunts795335385(~craunts@152.32.99.2)
2026-03-15 05:41:39 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 05:41:56 +0100bitdex(~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2026-03-15 05:45:58 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2026-03-15 05:46:03 +0100bitdex(~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) bitdex
2026-03-15 05:47:33 +0100humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect
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2026-03-15 05:50:02 +0100jle`(~jle`@2603:8001:3b00:11::1156) (Quit: WeeChat 4.8.1)
2026-03-15 05:50:55 +0100dutchie(~dutchie@user/dutchie) dutchie
2026-03-15 05:53:36 +0100wickedjargon(~user@S0106f89e28d5699a.vc.shawcable.net) wickedjargon
2026-03-15 05:57:00 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 05:57:14 +0100euphores(~SASL_euph@user/euphores) (Quit: Leaving.)
2026-03-15 05:59:54 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2026-03-15 06:01:41 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2026-03-15 06:03:24 +0100humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
2026-03-15 06:05:08 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) chromoblob\0
2026-03-15 06:12:22 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 06:13:17 +0100peterbecich(~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) peterbecich
2026-03-15 06:17:12 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2026-03-15 06:20:53 +0100jle`(~jle`@2603:8001:3b00:11:a2b9:f428:51ad:f7af) jle`
2026-03-15 06:22:27 +0100euphores(~SASL_euph@user/euphores) euphores
2026-03-15 06:27:42 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 06:34:18 +0100Adran(~adran@botters/adran) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2026-03-15 06:34:32 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2026-03-15 06:35:18 +0100Adran(~adran@botters/adran) Adran
2026-03-15 06:45:46 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 06:47:51 +0100takuan(~takuan@d8D86B9E9.access.telenet.be)
2026-03-15 06:50:02 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2026-03-15 06:53:17 +0100Guest88(~Guest88@31.205.11.202)
2026-03-15 06:54:55 +0100Guest88(~Guest88@31.205.11.202) (Client Quit)
2026-03-15 06:59:02 +0100tt12316070197(~tt1231@75.185.104.199) tt1231
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2026-03-15 07:01:10 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 07:05:48 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2026-03-15 07:07:12 +0100wickedjargon(~user@S0106f89e28d5699a.vc.shawcable.net) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2026-03-15 07:16:32 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 07:21:26 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2026-03-15 07:25:41 +0100wickedjargon(~user@S0106f89e28d5699a.vc.shawcable.net) wickedjargon
2026-03-15 07:26:12 +0100wickedjargon(~user@S0106f89e28d5699a.vc.shawcable.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
2026-03-15 07:26:24 +0100wickedjargon(~user@S0106f89e28d5699a.vc.shawcable.net) wickedjargon
2026-03-15 07:26:45 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2026-03-15 07:26:57 +0100wickedjargon(~user@S0106f89e28d5699a.vc.shawcable.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
2026-03-15 07:27:02 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) chromoblob\0
2026-03-15 07:27:10 +0100wickedjargon(~user@S0106f89e28d5699a.vc.shawcable.net) wickedjargon
2026-03-15 07:27:55 +0100peterbecich(~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2026-03-15 07:31:54 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 07:33:38 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2026-03-15 07:36:28 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2026-03-15 07:37:44 +0100marinelli(~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/marinelli) (Remote host closed the connection)
2026-03-15 07:38:05 +0100marinelli(~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/marinelli) marinelli
2026-03-15 07:43:27 +0100Square2(~Square@user/square) Square
2026-03-15 07:43:29 +0100humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect
2026-03-15 07:43:29 +0100humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) (Client Quit)
2026-03-15 07:43:48 +0100humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect
2026-03-15 07:46:10 +0100Square3(~Square@user/square) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2026-03-15 07:47:15 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2026-03-15 07:51:14 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) chromoblob\0
2026-03-15 07:51:45 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2026-03-15 07:52:35 +0100p3n(~p3n@2a00:19a0:3:7c:0:d9c6:7cf6:1) (Quit: ZNC 1.10.1 - https://znc.in)
2026-03-15 07:53:48 +0100p3n(~p3n@217.198.124.246) p3n
2026-03-15 08:01:01 +0100tt1231607019(~tt1231@75.185.104.199) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat)
2026-03-15 08:02:37 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 08:06:28 +0100wickedja`(~user@2605:8d80:5431:326b:f843:4622:5e47:57a5)
2026-03-15 08:06:57 +0100tt12316070197(~tt1231@75.185.104.199) tt1231
2026-03-15 08:08:02 +0100wickedjargon(~user@S0106f89e28d5699a.vc.shawcable.net) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2026-03-15 08:09:17 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2026-03-15 08:20:41 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 08:24:54 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2026-03-15 08:26:01 +0100hiecaq(~hiecaq@user/hiecaq) hiecaq
2026-03-15 08:28:01 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2026-03-15 08:31:00 +0100wickedja`(~user@2605:8d80:5431:326b:f843:4622:5e47:57a5) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2026-03-15 08:32:34 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) chromoblob\0
2026-03-15 08:32:45 +0100Guest33(~Guest33@2401:4900:1c88:4bc9:7579:696e:50b3:a061)
2026-03-15 08:34:55 +0100hakutaku(~textual@user/hakutaku) hakutaku
2026-03-15 08:36:03 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 08:37:50 +0100Guest33hsj
2026-03-15 08:38:55 +0100hsj(~Guest33@2401:4900:1c88:4bc9:7579:696e:50b3:a061) ()
2026-03-15 08:39:55 +0100 <mesaoptimizer> wow
2026-03-15 08:40:36 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2026-03-15 08:47:10 +0100haritz(~hrtz@user/haritz) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in)
2026-03-15 08:49:00 +0100machinedgod(~machinedg@d172-219-48-230.abhsia.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2026-03-15 08:51:25 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 08:56:12 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2026-03-15 09:06:47 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 09:11:00 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2026-03-15 09:14:25 +0100Vizious(~bes@user/Vizious) Vizious
2026-03-15 09:22:09 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-03-15 09:26:58 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2026-03-15 09:33:20 +0100__monty__(~toonn@user/toonn) toonn
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2026-03-15 10:16:51 +0100 <mesaoptimizer> https://vitez.me/learn-haskell-in-two-weeks I don't recall if I've linked this here yet but it is a really nice essay about how Mercury gets their new hires up to speed with Haskell
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2026-03-15 11:28:45 +0100 <gentauro> mesaoptimizer: really nice read. thx
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2026-03-15 12:44:58 +0100 <ski> mesaoptimizer : Mercury, the language ?
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2026-03-15 12:46:14 +0100 <mesaoptimizer> ski: Mercury, the fintech company in SF. https://mercury.com/
2026-03-15 12:48:29 +0100 <ski> hm, never heard
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2026-03-15 13:02:17 +0100 <[exa]> mesaoptimizer: hey that post is pretty cool
2026-03-15 13:05:12 +0100 <mesaoptimizer> yeah, it made me quite optimistic about how easy it would be to get people up to speed to use Haskell
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2026-03-15 13:06:50 +0100 <[exa]> yeah like, the course I've been running for a few years now is essentially the same logic. I've got a talky part to explain stuff but the main part is chewing through a few relatively easy problems and getting code to work.
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2026-03-15 14:48:29 +0100 <gentauro> mesaoptimizer: you need to have a base. I recall very bright people from the uni days that by taking the SML course were not able to understand what was going on (and skipping the class entirely).
2026-03-15 14:49:01 +0100 <gentauro> I think the only person I know who have managed to make these concepts easy to use by almost everybody, is Evan with Elm.
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2026-03-15 14:49:19 +0100gentauroand there are still many people who don't grasp the notions of it, sadly
2026-03-15 14:51:11 +0100 <Rembane> I believe in the concept of Elm as a "gateway drug"
2026-03-15 14:51:28 +0100 <Rembane> Gleam might work for that too, since it has a syntax that smells more of C
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2026-03-15 16:04:37 +0100 <chromoblob> Hoogle-as-a-Haskell-mentor
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2026-03-15 16:13:19 +0100 <mesaoptimizer> Hoogle isn't enough
2026-03-15 16:13:45 +0100 <mesaoptimizer> you need one-on-one mentoring while you try to solve exercises
2026-03-15 16:13:59 +0100 <mesaoptimizer> that's what I believe the essay states is the most effective strategy
2026-03-15 16:14:01 +0100merijn(~merijn@62.45.136.136) merijn
2026-03-15 16:14:52 +0100 <mesaoptimizer> gentauro: I feel like Haskell is likely easier to learn for people who didn't learn a traditional effectful impure imperative language
2026-03-15 16:15:02 +0100 <mesaoptimizer> so au contraire
2026-03-15 16:15:32 +0100arandombit(~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit
2026-03-15 16:18:44 +0100 <c_wraith> learning just about everything is most effective with a one-on-one mentor
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2026-03-15 16:21:59 +0100 <mesaoptimizer> I just realized that in my experience, I never could learn math in realtime in a one-on-one conversation with anyone experienced
2026-03-15 16:23:07 +0100 <mesaoptimizer> people massively underestimate the deep bodies of knowledge they've built and try to walk you through an argument as if you've internalized the statement they've said a few seconds ago
2026-03-15 16:23:40 +0100 <mesaoptimizer> its even worse if they are *bad* at this and get *frustrated* or worse, keep trying when you try to politely inform them of the futility of the attempt
2026-03-15 16:25:31 +0100 <c_wraith> I didn't say it was easy to be a mentor! It's actually very hard to know when to stop explaining and say "try this on your own for a while and tell me you come up with"
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2026-03-15 18:55:59 +0100 <Rembane> Math is ... math is never easy to learn nor to teach. IMHO. A compiler and some limit of the abstractions make things so much easier.
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