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| 2024-05-14 06:37:46 +0200 | remmie | (ianremsen@tilde.team) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2024-05-14 06:39:49 +0200 | <cheater> | i feel like haskell would be better if arguments were non-positional, i.e. you could supply them in any order |
| 2024-05-14 06:40:14 +0200 | <cheater> | rarely do functions have the same type multiple times, and when they do it's usually like a binary or ternary function and then you can explicitly order them with a tuple |
| 2024-05-14 06:40:39 +0200 | <danza> | make a product type for that? |
| 2024-05-14 06:41:56 +0200 | <cheater> | idk what you're saying |
| 2024-05-14 06:42:23 +0200 | <cheater> | if you look at type sigs, f :: A -> B -> C is basically a tuple. the only reason it's not exactly the same thing as (A, B, C) is currying. |
| 2024-05-14 06:44:17 +0200 | <cheater> | so what if we had a type constructor that's like (->) but binds less tightly than (->) and doesn't care about order. say (&). You could write f :: X & A -> B -> C & Y & Z -> Out, and then you could go like f a b c x y z, or f a x b y c z, or f x y z a b c |
| 2024-05-14 06:44:29 +0200 | <cheater> | whatever's useful |
| 2024-05-14 06:46:16 +0200 | <danza> | other languages that support out-of-order arguments end up with a syntax similar to { arg = val } like one would easily achieve with a product type |
| 2024-05-14 07:00:59 +0200 | <cheater> | like what languages are you thinking of |
| 2024-05-14 07:09:14 +0200 | <glguy> | cheater: that would only make sense in a vary narrow subset of Haskell |
| 2024-05-14 07:09:31 +0200 | <cheater> | why |
| 2024-05-14 07:09:34 +0200 | <glguy> | > id succ 10 |
| 2024-05-14 07:09:35 +0200 | <lambdabot> | 11 |
| 2024-05-14 07:09:37 +0200 | <glguy> | :t id |
| 2024-05-14 07:09:38 +0200 | <lambdabot> | a -> a |
| 2024-05-14 07:10:00 +0200 | <glguy> | You need to know the order of application to even attempt to type-check an expression |
| 2024-05-14 07:10:08 +0200 | <cheater> | id only has one argument |
| 2024-05-14 07:10:08 +0200 | <glguy> | function in haskell *only* have one argument |
| 2024-05-14 07:10:18 +0200 | <glguy> | but that doesn't mean you can't apply the result as a function |
| 2024-05-14 07:10:21 +0200 | <cheater> | ok ok |
| 2024-05-14 07:10:29 +0200 | <cheater> | i see where you're coming from |
| 2024-05-14 07:10:29 +0200 | <glguy> | all functions have one argument; no functions have two |
| 2024-05-14 07:10:34 +0200 | <cheater> | but i don't think that's an issue |
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| 2024-05-14 07:11:31 +0200 | michalz | (~michalz@185.246.207.193) |
| 2024-05-14 07:11:59 +0200 | <glguy> | beyond it simply not working with the way types in Haskell work, it'd be a complete disaster for readability |
| 2024-05-14 07:12:17 +0200 | <glguy> | now to know what: f x y means, you have to work out the types of f, x, and y before you can know which thing is which |
| 2024-05-14 07:12:30 +0200 | <cheater> | idk that it would be, people say haskell's syntax is a complete disaster for readability too |
| 2024-05-14 07:12:42 +0200 | <cheater> | yeah you know that one usually when reading code |
| 2024-05-14 07:12:51 +0200 | <cheater> | if you lose track of that then your code is too messy anyways |
| 2024-05-14 07:12:55 +0200 | <glguy> | no, that's not a common take on people who've actually used it |
| 2024-05-14 07:13:03 +0200 | mei | (~mei@user/mei) |
| 2024-05-14 07:13:34 +0200 | remmie | (ianremsen@tilde.team) |
| 2024-05-14 07:13:53 +0200 | <cheater> | have you used the language i'm describing? |
| 2024-05-14 07:15:20 +0200 | <glguy> | I would avoid using such a language, but I don't think it exists |
| 2024-05-14 07:15:37 +0200 | <cheater> | so you're basically the "haskell is unreadable" person |
| 2024-05-14 07:16:28 +0200 | <glguy> | oh, no |
| 2024-05-14 07:20:40 +0200 | <danza> | "haskell's syntax is a complete disaster" haha nice joke |
| 2024-05-14 07:21:18 +0200 | <danza> | "... for readability" that is also a good one |
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| 2024-05-14 08:03:54 +0200 | <cheater> | yea i know right |
| 2024-05-14 08:04:05 +0200 | <cheater> | but there are people who *will* say this |
| 2024-05-14 08:04:18 +0200 | <cheater> | like honestly that's most people who haven't used haskell |
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| 2024-05-14 10:54:12 +0200 | danse-nr3 | (~danse-nr3@151.57.194.120) |
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| 2024-05-14 11:01:16 +0200 | euleritian | (~euleritia@dynamic-176-000-145-069.176.0.pool.telefonica.de) |
| 2024-05-14 11:05:33 +0200 | rosco | (~rosco@yp-146-6.tm.net.my) (Quit: Lost terminal) |
| 2024-05-14 11:05:48 +0200 | rosco | (~rosco@yp-146-6.tm.net.my) |
| 2024-05-14 11:09:52 +0200 | hseg | (~gesh@46.120.21.14) |
| 2024-05-14 11:10:46 +0200 | <hseg> | Checking for the sake of reproducible builds, is there some way to avoid infecting the executable with the build directory? |
| 2024-05-14 11:11:26 +0200 | <hseg> | (i'm building with stack) |
| 2024-05-14 11:11:53 +0200 | <hseg> | (i.e. strings $executable shows references to /home/gesh/.local/share/stack/snapshots/x86_64-linux) |
| 2024-05-14 11:13:23 +0200 | euleritian | (~euleritia@dynamic-176-000-145-069.176.0.pool.telefonica.de) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-05-14 11:13:40 +0200 | euleritian | (~euleritia@ip4d16fc38.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 2024-05-14 11:15:37 +0200 | <[exa]> | hseg: not sure with stack, but I checked a few executables from cabal here and there doesn't seem to be any reference to any local directories |
| 2024-05-14 11:16:03 +0200 | <[exa]> | hseg: anyway for replroducible builds you might want to have a complete separate clean environment for them, like what debians do with sbuild or so |
| 2024-05-14 11:16:18 +0200 | <hseg> | oh, definitely |
| 2024-05-14 11:16:39 +0200 | <[exa]> | actually `sbuild` can build haskelly stacky stuff already so might be the case that reuse is easy there |
| 2024-05-14 11:17:33 +0200 | <hseg> | wasn't expecting to get fully reproducible builds in one shot, more trying to get closer to reproducibility |
| 2024-05-14 11:17:57 +0200 | <hseg> | sbuild? |
| 2024-05-14 11:20:16 +0200 | <hseg> | btw, checking cabal-built ghcid shows such references to build dir |
| 2024-05-14 11:21:06 +0200 | euleritian | (~euleritia@ip4d16fc38.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2024-05-14 11:21:45 +0200 | <hseg> | ah, I assume you mean https://sbuild.org |
| 2024-05-14 11:22:01 +0200 | euleritian | (~euleritia@dynamic-176-004-151-001.176.4.pool.telefonica.de) |
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| 2024-05-14 11:28:50 +0200 | euleritian | (~euleritia@ip4d16fc38.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 2024-05-14 11:31:50 +0200 | danse-nr3 | (~danse-nr3@151.57.194.120) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-05-14 11:32:55 +0200 | danse-nr3 | (~danse-nr3@151.43.144.199) |
| 2024-05-14 11:36:04 +0200 | __monty__ | (~toonn@user/toonn) |
| 2024-05-14 11:38:08 +0200 | deriamis | (deriamis@ec2-54-187-167-69.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) |
| 2024-05-14 11:38:23 +0200 | deriamis | (deriamis@ec2-54-187-167-69.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 2024-05-14 11:40:46 +0200 | <ski> | cheater : <https://ocaml.org/manual/5.2/lablexamples.html> |
| 2024-05-14 11:43:16 +0200 | <cheater> | yeah that's not really what i'm talking about |
| 2024-05-14 11:43:41 +0200 | <ski> | it's labelled arguments, which you can provide out of order |
| 2024-05-14 11:43:49 +0200 | <cheater> | yes. not what i'm talking about |
| 2024-05-14 11:44:05 +0200 | <ski> | (can't reaally provide them, out of order, without labelling them) |
| 2024-05-14 11:44:25 +0200 | <ski> | (at least not, if you want the language to be sane) |
| 2024-05-14 11:44:48 +0200 | <cheater> | i'll disagree with that last one |
| 2024-05-14 11:45:04 +0200 | <cheater> | i'm talking about the fact that most often with functions in haskell you either have arguments that all have different types, or just a small amount amount of arguments of equal types, which can be represented as a tuple (or, uncurried, with -> ) |
| 2024-05-14 11:45:23 +0200 | <cheater> | at that point it's easy to figure out which piece goes in which hole |
| 2024-05-14 11:45:23 +0200 | <ski> | what if the types of `x',`y',`z' are the same as the types of `a',`b',`c' (respectively) ? |
| 2024-05-14 11:45:35 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | still with this stuff? What is wrong with my suggestion to use a product type? |
| 2024-05-14 11:45:42 +0200 | <cheater> | i specifically typed out their types ski |
| 2024-05-14 11:45:53 +0200 | <ski> | not in the application, you did not |
| 2024-05-14 11:46:10 +0200 | <cheater> | it was an example in the context of what i said before about the type signature |
| 2024-05-14 11:46:27 +0200 | <cheater> | it was all part of the same example |
| 2024-05-14 11:47:23 +0200 | <ski> | `x',`y',`z',`a',`b',`c' here are meta-variables, standing for arbitrary expressions. there's no a-priori associatiation of these, to the types `X',`Y',`Z',`A',`B',`C' .. if you mean just actual variable names `x',`y',`z',`a',`b',`c' .. then that's very limited, doesn't scale, isn't really composable |
| 2024-05-14 11:47:39 +0200 | <cheater> | stop being confused on purpose |
| 2024-05-14 11:47:56 +0200 | <ski> | Hanlon's razor |
| 2024-05-14 11:48:02 +0200 | <cheater> | no |
| 2024-05-14 11:48:24 +0200 | <ski> | i genuienly don't know how you are envisioning this to work |
| 2024-05-14 11:48:39 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | huh i knew it as occam's razor... or is it different? |
| 2024-05-14 11:48:46 +0200 | <ski> | no, it's not the same thing |
| 2024-05-14 11:48:51 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | v |
| 2024-05-14 11:49:14 +0200 | <ski> | "Don't attribute to malice, what can be adequately explained by ignorance/stupidity." |
| 2024-05-14 11:49:59 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | i remember occam's as "the simplest explanation is also the most likely" ... but it is lost in the mists of time. Maybe that was misreferenced |
| 2024-05-14 11:50:23 +0200 | <ski> | perhaps i'd understand it better, cheater, if you made a simple prototype type checker (and maybe parser, if you wish) |
| 2024-05-14 11:50:45 +0200 | <ski> | danse-nr3 : yea, that's basically that one |
| 2024-05-14 11:50:54 +0200 | <lortabac> | IIRC generic-lens does something similar to what cheater is proposing |
| 2024-05-14 11:51:10 +0200 | <lortabac> | you can select a record field by type if there is no ambiguity |
| 2024-05-14 11:51:21 +0200 | <ski> | danse-nr3 : <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor> |
| 2024-05-14 11:51:26 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | dunno, i just use product types and that gives me 99% of the functionality |
| 2024-05-14 11:51:52 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | one can also have f (default'{ arg = type }) |
| 2024-05-14 11:52:01 +0200 | <lortabac> | I think it would be nice to have this feature as an IDE action, but not baked in the language |
| 2024-05-14 11:52:40 +0200 | <lortabac> | if you swap two arguments by mistake and it's obvious enough, an IDE may suggest inverting them |
| 2024-05-14 11:52:52 +0200 | <ski> | anyway, using records (or labelled multi-arity functions, if available) is one workable approach. what OCaml does, labelled curried arguments, also works |
| 2024-05-14 11:53:16 +0200 | <ski> | yes |
| 2024-05-14 11:55:09 +0200 | <ncf> | the unordered arguments thing sounds like it would also be garbage wrt type inference |
| 2024-05-14 11:56:18 +0200 | lortabac | (~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:55ab:e185:7f81:54a4) (Quit: WeeChat 4.2.1) |
| 2024-05-14 11:58:04 +0200 | random-jellyfish | (~developer@user/random-jellyfish) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-05-14 11:59:55 +0200 | <ski> | like, if you can elaborate this in a workable fashion, i'd be interested in taking a look .. i'm just saying i'm not seeing how it could work, in a way i'd consider reasonable |
| 2024-05-14 12:00:21 +0200 | <ski> | but i don't want to discourage you from pondering it, if you want to |
| 2024-05-14 12:05:30 +0200 | yin | (~yin@user/zero) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2024-05-14 12:06:07 +0200 | <cheater> | you're right, hold up, let me implement a parser and a type checker real quick |
| 2024-05-14 12:06:56 +0200 | yin | (~yin@user/zero) |
| 2024-05-14 12:14:15 +0200 | titibandit | (~titibandi@user/titibandit) |
| 2024-05-14 12:15:08 +0200 | <probie> | I wouldn't mind such behaviour to allow elision of names in a system where all arguments are named arguments |
| 2024-05-14 12:22:13 +0200 | bo_ | (~bo@198.red-83-56-252.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) |
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| 2024-05-14 12:56:16 +0200 | just_started_has | (~just_star@2401:4900:1cc9:315f:ac5a:52e5:ce3f:eca3) |
| 2024-05-14 12:56:21 +0200 | <just_started_has> | hello |
| 2024-05-14 12:56:39 +0200 | <just_started_has> | i write test :: [Int] -> [Int] |
| 2024-05-14 12:56:39 +0200 | <just_started_has> | in main.hs |
| 2024-05-14 12:56:40 +0200 | <just_started_has> | then write test in the ghci of main.hs |
| 2024-05-14 12:56:40 +0200 | <just_started_has> | it says Variable not in scope |
| 2024-05-14 12:56:41 +0200 | <just_started_has> | why is that , |
| 2024-05-14 12:56:41 +0200 | <just_started_has> | i started haskell 4 hours ago , please forgive this noob question if it is |
| 2024-05-14 12:57:14 +0200 | <just_started_has> | the doc says variable not in scope only happens when it is not declared but it is |
| 2024-05-14 12:58:08 +0200 | <int-e> | You can't have just the type signature in a module; you have to have an accompanying definition. |
| 2024-05-14 12:58:23 +0200 | <cheater> | show us a screenshot of your terminal |
| 2024-05-14 12:59:39 +0200 | <int-e> | `ghci main.hs` doesn't execute main.hs as a script. It loads it as a Haskell module. |
| 2024-05-14 12:59:48 +0200 | <int-e> | Or, well, tries to. |
| 2024-05-14 13:01:19 +0200 | Lord_of_Life | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2024-05-14 13:01:36 +0200 | <just_started_has> | one second |
| 2024-05-14 13:02:15 +0200 | tcard | (~tcard@2400:4051:5801:7500:cf17:befc:ff82:5303) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2024-05-14 13:02:35 +0200 | tcard | (~tcard@2400:4051:5801:7500:cf17:befc:ff82:5303) |
| 2024-05-14 13:03:43 +0200 | <just_started_has> | https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yTimzu4dD3rL4GZKVTsXlJEDbaU4tXvO/view?usp=drive_link |
| 2024-05-14 13:03:47 +0200 | Lord_of_Life | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) |
| 2024-05-14 13:05:07 +0200 | <ncf> | how are you starting ghci? if you run `ghci main.hs` you should get a nice helpful error about `test` lacking an accompanying binding |
| 2024-05-14 13:05:52 +0200 | <just_started_has> | i just quit and startedd , yes it does give an error |
| 2024-05-14 13:08:55 +0200 | <just_started_has> | thx |
| 2024-05-14 13:09:08 +0200 | lortabac | (~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:55ab:e185:7f81:54a4) |
| 2024-05-14 13:09:20 +0200 | euleritian | (~euleritia@ip4d16fc38.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
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| 2024-05-14 13:19:49 +0200 | danse-nr3 | (~danse-nr3@151.43.144.199) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2024-05-14 13:20:55 +0200 | yin | (~yin@user/zero) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2024-05-14 13:30:20 +0200 | <ski> | just_started_has : you can use `:reload' (`:r' for short) to make the interactor reload the files that have changed |
| 2024-05-14 13:31:04 +0200 | <just_started_has> | yes i just realized that , thanks !! |
| 2024-05-14 13:31:21 +0200 | <just_started_has> | i thought that it reloadds automatically ? , can it ? |
| 2024-05-14 13:36:09 +0200 | Maxdamantus | (~Maxdamant@user/maxdamantus) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2024-05-14 13:36:18 +0200 | <ski> | you can set up `:e' (`:edit') to launch (or connect to) your editor, in which case when that command terminates, it'll automatically do a `:r' |
| 2024-05-14 13:36:37 +0200 | Maxdamantus | (~Maxdamant@user/maxdamantus) |
| 2024-05-14 13:36:37 +0200 | <ski> | otherwise, you have to do `:r' manually, after saving |
| 2024-05-14 13:37:53 +0200 | <ski> | (or you could launch your interactor inside your editor, possibly) |
| 2024-05-14 13:40:26 +0200 | <just_started_has> | i am using the vim |
| 2024-05-14 13:40:32 +0200 | <just_started_has> | i think it can |
| 2024-05-14 13:40:51 +0200 | philopsos1 | (~caecilius@user/philopsos) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2024-05-14 13:41:49 +0200 | yin | (~yin@user/zero) |
| 2024-05-14 13:44:50 +0200 | <just_started_has> | ski thanks !! this works |
| 2024-05-14 13:45:34 +0200 | <ski> | just_started_has : <https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/latest/docs/users_guide/ghci.html#ghci-cmd-:edit> |
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| 2024-05-14 15:30:33 +0200 | esnos | (~user@194.29.137.22) |
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| 2024-05-14 15:42:13 +0200 | <esnos> | Hi, I want to use haskell-mode with corfu as completion backend, does anybody have working setup. I customized '(tab-always-indent 'complete) and tab completion works in other modes, for example in python, but in haskell mode it just intends and I need to use M-tab which is uncomfortable considering I use tab for everything else. I also saw that in other modes completion-at-point is set to C-M-i, which corfu uses I think, but in |
| 2024-05-14 15:42:13 +0200 | <esnos> | haskell-mode it isn't set to anything, so maybe this is why there are problems. |
| 2024-05-14 15:43:12 +0200 | <esnos> | Sorry for double message, I started using irc yesterday |
| 2024-05-14 15:47:17 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | this question is quite emacs-specific esnos, i am afraid we might not be that knowledgeable about that. Anyways usually for developing people use Haskell Language Server as a backend... i am not sure about which emacs client to recommend, i think there are a couple of main ones |
| 2024-05-14 15:50:30 +0200 | yin | (~yin@user/zero) |
| 2024-05-14 15:50:56 +0200 | <esnos> | I use eglot with hls, but to show possible completions you need company or eglot |
| 2024-05-14 15:52:35 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | oh then i don't know what corfu is for |
| 2024-05-14 15:56:45 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) |
| 2024-05-14 16:02:57 +0200 | <stefan-__> | esnos: I use company-mode and have the following binding in "haskell-mode-map": "("C-SPC" . 'company-complete)" -- additionally I disabled auto-showing the company completions: "(setq company-idle-delay nil)" |
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| 2024-05-14 16:43:04 +0200 | <esnos> | stefan-__, will try similar approach |
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| 2024-05-14 17:19:19 +0200 | yin | (~yin@user/zero) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2024-05-14 17:21:16 +0200 | <stefan-__> | esnos: here is my config for eglot and lsp-mode (currently in use): https://gist.github.com/dozed/9b70668200876179b2a5381c53683ca7 |
| 2024-05-14 17:24:56 +0200 | danse-nr3 | (~danse-nr3@151.57.181.243) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2024-05-14 17:36:16 +0200 | <johnw> | Part of the answer to my "show" lens question is `re _Show`, which understandably is only valid as a Getter or Fold. There is no valid traversal unless I place an unchecked constraint on the mutation of "no modification that aren't numbers". |
| 2024-05-14 17:38:24 +0200 | euphores | (~SASL_euph@user/euphores) (Quit: Leaving.) |
| 2024-05-14 17:39:48 +0200 | ph88 | (~ph88@2a02:8109:9e26:c800:36fd:400b:5478:66f9) |
| 2024-05-14 17:40:04 +0200 | Square2 | (~Square4@user/square) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2024-05-14 17:40:23 +0200 | <ph88> | does someone know a map that can only be read and written to and not delete items? |
| 2024-05-14 17:43:49 +0200 | <ncf> | (->) ? |
| 2024-05-14 17:45:58 +0200 | <ph88> | ? |
| 2024-05-14 17:46:25 +0200 | yin | (~yin@user/zero) |
| 2024-05-14 17:51:38 +0200 | tv | (~tv@user/tv) (Quit: derp) |
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| 2024-05-14 17:56:30 +0200 | Square | (~Square@user/square) |
| 2024-05-14 17:57:23 +0200 | <ncf> | or search hackage for "total map" if you want something efficient |
| 2024-05-14 17:57:54 +0200 | <ncf> | but k -> v supports lookup and insertion and not deleting items |
| 2024-05-14 18:01:51 +0200 | <EvanR> | peanut gallery here, but if you emulate a map that is not total with total map by having the default value be Nothing, then you can still "delete" by "inserting nothing" |
| 2024-05-14 18:02:09 +0200 | <EvanR> | ph88's plans are ruined |
| 2024-05-14 18:03:47 +0200 | <ph88> | empire collapsed |
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| 2024-05-14 20:04:22 +0200 | <cheater> | i wish cabal would allow me module prefixes |
| 2024-05-14 20:05:04 +0200 | <cheater> | so like i wouldn't have to do vim test/MyCompany/MyProduct/MyProject/Test/Actual/Hierarchy/Here.hs |
| 2024-05-14 20:05:19 +0200 | <cheater> | instead i'd do vim test/Actual/Hierarchy/Here.hs |
| 2024-05-14 20:06:06 +0200 | gmg | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-05-14 20:06:26 +0200 | <cheater> | while the module in Here.hs is still declared as "module MyCompany.MyProduct.MyProject.Test.Actual.Hierarchy.Here where" |
| 2024-05-14 20:07:45 +0200 | gmg | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) |