2026/07/05

Newest at the top

2026-07-05 15:30:55 +0000eggplantade(~eggplanta@2600:1702:8450:c370:9436:d382:832a:2336)
2026-07-05 15:30:34 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine)
2026-07-05 15:28:16 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2026-07-05 15:24:21 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life
2026-07-05 15:24:07 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-07-05 15:18:22 +0000eggplantade(~eggplanta@2600:1702:8450:c370:9436:d382:832a:2336) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2026-07-05 15:13:29 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2026-07-05 15:12:55 +0000eggplantade(~eggplanta@2600:1702:8450:c370:9436:d382:832a:2336)
2026-07-05 15:08:45 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-07-05 15:02:42 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Client Quit)
2026-07-05 14:59:58 +0000eggplantade(~eggplanta@2600:1702:8450:c370:9436:d382:832a:2336) (Ping timeout: 257 seconds)
2026-07-05 14:59:30 +0000pavonia(~user@user/siracusa) (Quit: Bye!)
2026-07-05 14:58:38 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life
2026-07-05 14:58:26 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2026-07-05 14:56:41 +0000 <jaror> Yeah changing the semantics is not cool
2026-07-05 14:54:50 +0000 <EvanR> it's basically a completely broken abstraction on their part
2026-07-05 14:53:50 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-07-05 14:53:50 +0000eggplantade(~eggplanta@2600:1702:8450:c370:9436:d382:832a:2336)
2026-07-05 14:53:37 +0000 <EvanR> character being a placeholder for whatever type
2026-07-05 14:53:09 +0000 <EvanR> in the 100th "transparent" chunk
2026-07-05 14:52:44 +0000 <EvanR> and it crashes when you get to character 6403
2026-07-05 14:52:28 +0000 <EvanR> so character 6461
2026-07-05 14:52:22 +0000 <EvanR> not 61. imagine chunk = 6400
2026-07-05 14:51:49 +0000 <jaror> so you mean you have a lazy list with an error in character 61 but it already gets thrown when accessing the third element?
2026-07-05 14:51:23 +0000 <EvanR> assuming nothing throws an exception or goes into an infinite loop "it's fine", like ignoring bottoms in haskell. But that's unrealistic in java
2026-07-05 14:49:57 +0000 <EvanR> jaror, start of chunk[61]
2026-07-05 14:49:36 +0000 <EvanR> you're supposedly interacting with a straight list
2026-07-05 14:49:26 +0000 <EvanR> "chunk" not being an observable location in the language
2026-07-05 14:49:24 +0000 <jaror> What is character chunk + 61?
2026-07-05 14:48:29 +0000 <EvanR> tomsmeding, clojure "transparently" implements their main lazy list using chunking. And when the computation of character chunk + 61 throws an exception, it is thrown when you think you are accessing chunk + 3
2026-07-05 14:42:49 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2026-07-05 14:41:09 +0000eggplantade(~eggplanta@2600:1702:8450:c370:9436:d382:832a:2336) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2026-07-05 14:38:28 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-07-05 14:37:17 +0000ih1d(~isaaclope@24.54.249.2)
2026-07-05 14:35:41 +0000eggplantade(~eggplanta@2600:1702:8450:c370:9436:d382:832a:2336)
2026-07-05 14:27:44 +0000merijn(~merijn@62.45.136.136) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2026-07-05 14:23:48 +0000eggplantade(~eggplanta@2600:1702:8450:c370:9436:d382:832a:2336) (Ping timeout: 254 seconds)
2026-07-05 14:23:11 +0000merijn(~merijn@62.45.136.136) merijn
2026-07-05 14:17:34 +0000eggplantade(~eggplanta@2600:1702:8450:c370:9436:d382:832a:2336)
2026-07-05 14:13:57 +0000czan(~czan@user/mange) (Quit: Zzz...)
2026-07-05 14:12:27 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2026-07-05 14:11:32 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Excess Flood)
2026-07-05 14:10:10 +0000eggplantade(~eggplanta@2600:1702:8450:c370:9436:d382:832a:2336) (Ping timeout: 259 seconds)
2026-07-05 14:07:44 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-07-05 14:04:40 +0000eggplantade(~eggplanta@2600:1702:8450:c370:9436:d382:832a:2336)
2026-07-05 14:00:07 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2026-07-05 13:55:31 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-07-05 13:52:54 +0000eggplantade(~eggplanta@2600:1702:8450:c370:9436:d382:832a:2336) (Ping timeout: 263 seconds)
2026-07-05 13:50:29 +0000yanmaani(~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani) yanmaani
2026-07-05 13:49:25 +0000yanmaani(~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)