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2026-06-30 21:03:38 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-06-30 21:03:26 +0000 <int-e> ('p' for 'd' that is)
2026-06-30 21:02:44 +0000juri_(~juri@217-114-215-140.pool.ovpn.com) juri_
2026-06-30 21:02:41 +0000 <int-e> (unfortunately that's not a plausible typo. :) )
2026-06-30 21:02:12 +0000 <int-e> Well, it's not calle vibe coping for nothing
2026-06-30 21:01:31 +0000 <tomsmeding> yes
2026-06-30 21:01:15 +0000 <int-e> So... it feels better by an unspecified margin.
2026-06-30 21:01:09 +0000polykernel_polykernel
2026-06-30 21:01:09 +0000polykernel(~polykerne@user/polykernel) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2026-06-30 21:00:13 +0000 <tomsmeding> subjectively improves output quality
2026-06-30 20:59:54 +0000 <int-e> I dislike the word "works" in this context, it's too unspecific
2026-06-30 20:59:37 +0000polykernel_(~polykerne@user/polykernel) polykernel
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2026-06-30 20:57:26 +0000 <tomsmeding> which, perhaps surprisingly, apparently works
2026-06-30 20:57:14 +0000 <tomsmeding> int-e: supposedly, the fancy ones also do some kind of socratic method stuff: have another instance of the LLM (with a different prompt) judge the output, feeding that back, etc
2026-06-30 20:56:51 +0000int-eshrugs
2026-06-30 20:56:29 +0000 <int-e> So the poor humans have to do less of that.
2026-06-30 20:56:14 +0000 <int-e> Anyway. The point was that as I understand it, the harness is a kind of lector. It'll catch the most obvious bullshit (code that fails to compile, test suites don't pass, linter outputs etc.) and reject stuff, and I suppose add it to the prompt (call it "refining the prompt" if you want to be fancy)
2026-06-30 20:55:50 +0000 <tomsmeding> lol
2026-06-30 20:55:43 +0000 <Clint> depends how radioactive it is
2026-06-30 20:55:16 +0000 <EvanR> how many infinities would it take a banana to write Shakespeare
2026-06-30 20:54:58 +0000 <tomsmeding> don't make fun of bananas, bananas are nice
2026-06-30 20:54:26 +0000 <EvanR> a human and a banana
2026-06-30 20:53:20 +0000 <tomsmeding> fair
2026-06-30 20:53:07 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2026-06-30 20:53:04 +0000 <int-e> tomsmeding: Or maybe he just called a human a monkey. Which... eh we're not that far apart, biologically speaking.
2026-06-30 20:52:33 +0000 <monochrom> heh
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2026-06-30 20:52:10 +0000 <tomsmeding> That's certainly too harsh on Dan Brown :p
2026-06-30 20:51:34 +0000 <int-e> monochrom: Though his punchline (as I recall it) was very different: "And a single monkey typing away over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown."
2026-06-30 20:51:06 +0000acidjnk(~acidjnk@p200300d6e74def37a5af64098d23bd41.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) acidjnk
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2026-06-30 20:50:12 +0000 <int-e> monochrom: I'm stealing an old Colbert bit
2026-06-30 20:49:45 +0000 <tomsmeding> what monochrom said