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2026-06-24 07:11:31 +0000 <Leary> monochrom: Don't bother proving /asymptotic/ complexity either. Almost every such proof hides a more precise characterisation of the relationship between arguments and costs in the finite domain we actually care about.
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2026-06-24 06:54:46 +0000gentaurooh, if the man himself states otherwise (Edwin Brady) -> https://cs.stackexchange.com/a/23916 then I'm mistaken
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2026-06-24 06:52:56 +0000 <gentauro> dolio: hmmm. For example, Idris type-checker only works on total functions right (functions that are guaranteed to terminate)?
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2026-06-24 06:47:20 +0000 <dolio> That's not what they do.
2026-06-24 06:46:52 +0000 <gentauro> dolio: in the sense that total programming languages has the guarantee that ALL programs will halt.
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2026-06-24 06:34:46 +0000 <dolio> It just isn't necessarily the case that there is an equivalent function `T -> U`.
2026-06-24 06:34:01 +0000 <dolio> You can have a monad that allows you to write partial functions from T to U as `T -> M U`, say. And as long as that can embed into whatever `main` runs, your programs are not really limited.
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2026-06-24 06:30:11 +0000 <dolio> Whether it's Turing complete depends on what you mean by that.
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2026-06-24 06:18:35 +0000 <gentauro> hehe
2026-06-24 06:18:32 +0000 <gentauro> so Haskell lives on the shoulders of OCaml? https://github.com/nrnrnr/qc-- (nice)