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| 2026-04-18 07:57:29 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <ozkutuk> maerwald: yeah this gets annoying super fast. There is a function to do function composition ("compose"), but it is pretty much useless because you need to explicitly provide the type of both sides and also the return type... |
| 2026-04-18 07:56:23 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2026-04-18 07:53:42 +0000 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:73ce:e440:32fb:1d76) |
| 2026-04-18 07:52:52 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> using functions like fold/map with all the verbose type annotations looks super confusing too |
| 2026-04-18 07:52:51 +0000 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:c6f2:203e:25ca:637b) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2026-04-18 07:51:54 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> it seems the only value it brings is a little bit of string interpolation... and that's all |
| 2026-04-18 07:50:30 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> no sensible way to do updates (e.g. to do deeply nested merges) |
| 2026-04-18 07:49:56 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> you can't do lookup even |
| 2026-04-18 07:49:50 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> keys have to be text (but guess what... you can't compare text, lol)... |
| 2026-04-18 07:49:19 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> Also, the Map interface... oh dear |
| 2026-04-18 07:48:52 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <ozkutuk> In your case I don't think there is much you can do |
| 2026-04-18 07:48:38 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <ozkutuk> Ah, I see. This solution assumed you are using Dhall in your application to parse config, hence I qualified my initial response with "if you are using Dhall as a library" |
| 2026-04-18 07:47:07 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-04-18 07:44:50 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> What application code? I want to use it to generate yaml. Now everyone who wants to use my config has to build their own dhall binary. |
| 2026-04-18 07:44:38 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <ozkutuk> Say, you use "Dhall.inputWithSettings <yourSettings>", rather than "Dhall.input" |
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| 2026-04-18 07:43:03 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <ozkutuk> no fork needed, you write your custom normalizer in your application code and pass it as an argument to the Dhall library functions rather than using the implicit default one |
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| 2026-04-18 07:41:06 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> aha, now I have to fork dhall? |
| 2026-04-18 07:40:35 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <ozkutuk> docs have an example: https://hackage-content.haskell.org/package/dhall-1.42.3/docs/Dhall-Tutorial.html#g:23 |
| 2026-04-18 07:40:20 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <ozkutuk> Dhall provides extension points to introduce your own built-ins, so if you are using Dhall as a library, you can extend it to add a Text/equal built-in |
| 2026-04-18 07:39:57 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> it's just that everything looks horrible |
| 2026-04-18 07:39:12 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> because I can hack around it by encoding sum types as integers and doing equality checks on them |
| 2026-04-18 07:38:40 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> that makes no sense |
| 2026-04-18 07:37:04 +0000 | <yushyin> | whether this is sensible or not is beyond my expertise :D |
| 2026-04-18 07:36:39 +0000 | <yushyin> | "The main reason for forbidding Text equality comparisons is to prevent people from parsing Text values at all, in order to encourage them to use more structured data types instead." -- https://github.com/dhall-lang/dhall-haskell/issues/72#issuecomment-309074784 |
| 2026-04-18 07:36:26 +0000 | <yushyin> | afair, that was a deliberate design decision |
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| 2026-04-18 07:29:55 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> yes |
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| 2026-04-18 07:14:12 +0000 | <gentauro> | maerwald: so you can't compare strings? |
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