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| 2026-02-17 21:48:12 +0100 | <larsivi> | thanks! |
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| 2026-02-17 21:39:53 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> yes, effect systems are relatively new and evolving, and not something routinely used by all haskellers (unless you count monads generally, like IO, as a kind of effect system) |
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| 2026-02-17 21:38:07 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I'm using "optics" in the generic sense (lens, microlens, optics...) |
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| 2026-02-17 21:37:37 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I think optics and effects are usually discussed separately and considered orthogonal, but probably there's some deep linkage we'll hear about shortly |
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| 2026-02-17 21:35:08 +0100 | <larsivi> | Also, I recently came over a project that used Lenses and that recommended Optics. I suppose I am on very thin water now, but are optics and effects competitors? Does it make sense to use together? Are there any optics vs effect comparisons out there? (If such a comparison makes sense ...) |
| 2026-02-17 21:31:23 +0100 | <larsivi> | thought that effects was almost an inherent part of functional programming, so was kinda surprised when I saw that there appear to be some competition (and that far from all use effect systems). Anyway, I think I like Bluefin? Gotta learn quite a bit more though. |
| 2026-02-17 21:31:21 +0100 | <larsivi> | Prior to starting to learn Haskell (pretty much first FP language I've touched in any significant manner after programming for over 30 years), and still, I did/do a lot of Typescript (some React, but mostly Node on the server). There I recently got into reading about effect systems (in particular effect-ts). But I then figured I should actually learn a FP lang, and so came to Haskell. I think I |
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