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2026-02-13 23:42:55 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
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2026-02-13 23:42:09 +0100ElementalFluorin(~Elemental@2a02:3035:613:b707:f5e7:32a2:68a3:74db) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2026-02-13 23:40:11 +0100FluorinatedFluor(~Fluorinat@2a02:3035:613:b707:f5e7:32a2:68a3:74db)
2026-02-13 23:38:19 +0100wootehfoot(~wootehfoo@user/wootehfoot) wootehfoot
2026-02-13 23:38:16 +0100NixClaw(~NixClaw@user/NixClaw) NixClaw
2026-02-13 23:37:42 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-02-13 23:35:17 +0100 <ElementalFluorin> (But hey, Startpage.com tries to be a privacy-enabled Google killer, by internally using Google, and having marketing guys leading their business. ;)
2026-02-13 23:34:08 +0100 <ElementalFluorin> mountain regions. … Ahh, the first dotcom bubble was a different time. XD)
2026-02-13 23:34:08 +0100 <ElementalFluorin> (Basically a company tried to develop a MS Office killer… IN MS Office’s VBA! … Played Magic the Gathering for half a year… Cobbled together a GUI in a few days… Got a 40 million grant… pissed that away too… and somehow ended up offering its “MS Office killer” on laptops with satellite dishes on the back of donkeys in remote
2026-02-13 23:32:03 +0100 <ElementalFluorin> And a mention of the Digital Donkey from thedailywtf.com. :D
2026-02-13 23:32:01 +0100FluoridinatedFlu(~Elemental@2a02:3035:613:b707:f5e7:32a2:68a3:74db) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2026-02-13 23:31:42 +0100NixClaw____(~NixClaw@71.231.169.198) (Excess Flood)
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2026-02-13 23:31:39 +0100 <ElementalFluorin> I think that list definitely misses the inner-platform effect though. :)
2026-02-13 23:30:48 +0100NixClaw(~NixClaw@user/NixClaw) (Excess Flood)
2026-02-13 23:30:48 +0100NixClaw(~NixClaw@user/NixClaw) NixClaw
2026-02-13 23:30:44 +0100oskarw(~user@user/oskarw) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2026-02-13 23:30:42 +0100 <ElementalFluorin> yushyin: Wait, so it’s this all new idea that will make dependencies super-easy, and you’re telling me it will make dependencies *harder* for me? Okay, I don’t think I wanna try NixOS. ^^
2026-02-13 23:29:59 +0100 <mauke> ah, here's a version with an "answer key": https://lemmy.ca/post/52764317/19307072
2026-02-13 23:29:33 +0100 <ElementalFluorin> mauke: Wouldn’t that be IBM/RedHat?
2026-02-13 23:29:29 +0100 <yushyin> FluoridinatedFlu: be prepared for the fact that building haskell projects on nix/nixos can be a challenge, especially if you want to link against shared libs. When I tried that a while ago, I regularly ran into linker errors. I apparently exceeded the argv max length or something
2026-02-13 23:29:20 +0100 <tomsmeding> I see :p
2026-02-13 23:29:14 +0100 <ElementalFluorin> tomsmeding: I tnink that was the joke. :)
2026-02-13 23:29:04 +0100 <Rembane> I think I would prefer a world where more was fashion tech and less was fascism tech
2026-02-13 23:29:01 +0100 <mauke> the "corporate control over packages" thing might be nix
2026-02-13 23:28:55 +0100 <ElementalFluorin> monochrom: Uuum, in practice, capitalism’s goal of profit maximization by definition leads to totalitarian fascism though. But I think we’re getting too political in here now, for my taste.
2026-02-13 23:28:25 +0100 <tomsmeding> ah
2026-02-13 23:28:19 +0100 <mauke> tomsmeding: they're projects lead, financed, or controlled by people who are anti-woke, anti-diversity, and/or plain racist
2026-02-13 23:28:14 +0100 <tomsmeding> honestly, most of the things that mauke mentions fit more with "fashion tech" than "fascism tech"
2026-02-13 23:27:53 +0100ElementalFluorin(~Elemental@2a02:3035:613:b707:f5e7:32a2:68a3:74db)
2026-02-13 23:27:41 +0100 <geekosaur> and btb I originally read "fashtech" as a portmanteau of "fashion" and "tech", but then I think a lot of modern (especially web) tech has been there for years
2026-02-13 23:27:24 +0100 <monochrom> "corporations protecting you from yourself" sounds more like capitalism than fascism.
2026-02-13 23:27:00 +0100 <FluoridinatedFlu> I’m gonna develop a ASN.1 impllementation of Nix syntax; gouge your eyes out, because I am Nyarlathotep! XD
2026-02-13 23:26:55 +0100 <geekosaur> but I don't think they've built an OS around hurd+guix as yet
2026-02-13 23:26:54 +0100 <tomsmeding> because if this is just a random list of bad stuff, I'm still not sure what "fashtech" is supposed to mean :p
2026-02-13 23:26:52 +0100 <mauke> I don't know that one
2026-02-13 23:26:47 +0100 <Clint> what's the wayland part
2026-02-13 23:26:46 +0100 <mauke> the web browser is ladybird. the "distributed functional programming" is urbit
2026-02-13 23:26:40 +0100 <geekosaur> I might also drop in guix as a somewhat more principled nix-like
2026-02-13 23:26:34 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2026-02-13 23:26:25 +0100 <mauke> tomsmeding: might be tailwind. the x11 stuff is almost definitely xlibre
2026-02-13 23:26:17 +0100 <tomsmeding> the nix website probably has css
2026-02-13 23:26:07 +0100 <FluoridinatedFlu> Or fashionable ones
2026-02-13 23:26:06 +0100 <monochrom> Does nix have CSS?
2026-02-13 23:25:52 +0100 <FluoridinatedFlu> tomsmeding: Bad ideologies, in general, I would say.
2026-02-13 23:25:50 +0100michalz(~michalz@185.246.207.222) (Remote host closed the connection)
2026-02-13 23:25:37 +0100 <tomsmeding> mauke: what is @zzt referring to there? It seems like a random list of "bad stuff", but then "terrible Fisher-Price CSS" sounds like it's targeting something specific
2026-02-13 23:25:34 +0100 <FluoridinatedFlu> mauke: XD
2026-02-13 23:24:58 +0100 <FluoridinatedFlu> monochrom: Well, that’s easy: Just instead of NewStandard 1.0, call it ThatOldStandard 2.0! :D Look at my boy USB! :D