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| 2026-01-28 01:44:29 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-80-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2026-01-28 01:41:01 +0100 | Lycurgus | (~juan@user/Lycurgus) (Quit: alsoknownas.renjuan.org ( juan@acm.org )) |
| 2026-01-28 01:40:28 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-80-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-01-28 01:37:34 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 01:34:25 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-80-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2026-01-28 01:33:42 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-80-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-01-28 01:30:28 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-28 01:27:51 +0100 | EvanR | (~EvanR@user/evanr) EvanR |
| 2026-01-28 01:26:57 +0100 | Tuplanolla | (~Tuplanoll@85-156-32-207.elisa-laajakaista.fi) Tuplanolla |
| 2026-01-28 01:26:40 +0100 | EvanR | (~EvanR@user/evanr) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2026-01-28 01:24:18 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-80-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2026-01-28 01:24:01 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-80-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 01:20:03 +0100 | otto_s | (~user@p5de2f740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 2026-01-28 01:19:48 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 01:19:16 +0100 | karenw | (~karenw@user/karenw) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 01:15:06 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-28 01:11:07 +0100 | Googulator39 | Googulator |
| 2026-01-28 01:08:33 +0100 | jmcantrell_ | jmcantrell |
| 2026-01-28 01:05:20 +0100 | <geekosaur> | right, we're doing a lot more than computers are |
| 2026-01-28 01:04:05 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 00:59:45 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-28 00:58:51 +0100 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d75-159-126-101.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod |
| 2026-01-28 00:55:55 +0100 | EvanR | (~EvanR@user/evanr) EvanR |
| 2026-01-28 00:49:28 +0100 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 00:48:31 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 00:44:00 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-28 00:43:32 +0100 | __monty__ | (~toonn@user/toonn) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2026-01-28 00:38:16 +0100 | <__monty__> | Are brains really that low energy? 2000 kcal/day = 2.3 kWh/day. From a random website a computer used 8 h/day will use about 146 kWh/year. So that's roughly half a brain. Unless we face that fact that most of our brain power is probably dedicated to "wasted" computation, like acquiring food, procreating etc. |
| 2026-01-28 00:33:09 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 00:29:14 +0100 | <Rembane> | I want a hot spare |
| 2026-01-28 00:28:13 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-28 00:27:11 +0100 | [exa] | -> back to haskell |
| 2026-01-28 00:26:50 +0100 | karenw | (~karenw@user/karenw) karenw |
| 2026-01-28 00:26:47 +0100 | <[exa]> | like, getting identical copies of fresh brains ain't easy for sure |
| 2026-01-28 00:25:24 +0100 | <jreicher> | "Uncopyable" is my paraphrase. The full point is that with software you can produce multiple instances from the one training history. But when you train a biological brain, you only have that instance. |
| 2026-01-28 00:23:58 +0100 | tomsmeding | likes squishy matrices |
| 2026-01-28 00:23:30 +0100 | <[exa]> | jreicher: wouldn't say "uncopyable", more like "gotten too squishy to do much else than thinking" |
| 2026-01-28 00:22:39 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:4c4c:3bb8:a5c6:557e) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2026-01-28 00:22:10 +0100 | <jreicher> | I really like Hinton's point (other people have probably made it to) that biological brains provide a tradeoff of being uncopyable but very low power consumption. It's a surprising (for me) way of looking at it, but makes sense. |
| 2026-01-28 00:21:59 +0100 | <[exa]> | c'mon guys no one ever had issues from listening to a good advisor with plenty of great ideas coming from whoknowswhere |
| 2026-01-28 00:20:59 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> For me also the moral, copyright, and corporate control aspects |
| 2026-01-28 00:17:10 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 00:17:00 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | it's one of the main reasons I hesitate to use them even for tasks they are appropriate for |
| 2026-01-28 00:16:33 +0100 | <jreicher> | The whole energy consumption aspect is pretty depressing. I really struggle with that. |
| 2026-01-28 00:15:04 +0100 | sord937 | (~sord937@gateway/tor-sasl/sord937) (Quit: sord937) |
| 2026-01-28 00:12:51 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | and the user guide is even one of them! |
| 2026-01-28 00:12:44 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-28 00:12:32 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | that's better than I expected |
| 2026-01-28 00:12:11 +0100 | <__monty__> | While I'm sure an LLM could also tell you, DDG gives me two hits in the first three results with the query `GHC foo @Int`. Burning a whole lot less energy in the process and not being built on nearly as exploitative a technology. |
| 2026-01-28 00:08:41 +0100 | Lycurgus | (~juan@user/Lycurgus) Lycurgus |