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2025-09-16 06:15:15 +0200PKDrinker(~PKDrinker@user/PKDrinker) PKDrinker
2025-09-16 06:13:47 +0200 <hololeap> it's actually less work because the software wouldn't have to mix the music in with the voice. it could just copy the stream to the container. it would be a heavier file size, though
2025-09-16 06:10:55 +0200xff0x(~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp)
2025-09-16 06:07:25 +0200 <StatisticalIndep> differently for different speakers!)
2025-09-16 06:07:24 +0200 <StatisticalIndep> hololeap: The reason is that not only is it much more work, but the file gets much bigger too. Not that it is relevant on YouTube, where the streams are separate anyway. But yes, all I know it being used for is channels with tracks in multiple languages, and that subtitle magic that Tom Scott did (yes, YT allows having the subtitles be colored
2025-09-16 06:07:18 +0200merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2025-09-16 06:05:38 +0200peterbecich(~Thunderbi@syn-172-222-149-049.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-09-16 06:03:56 +0200 <StatisticalIndep> Yes, for bicycle repair or origami, videos are great. I just want there to be an image or sound equivalent of text.
2025-09-16 06:02:50 +0200 <StatisticalIndep> a Nokia. :D
2025-09-16 06:02:50 +0200 <StatisticalIndep> geekosaur: I just had to buy a new phone because I finally broke it. I counted, and I have over a dozen dents in my plastered brick wall from that phone. The screen wasn’t even broken! What broke was the metal shielding under the polycarbonate-overmolded aluminium denting in and probably damaging and shorting a component below. It was built like
2025-09-16 06:02:49 +0200 <geekosaur> especially when the parts I most needed to see to keep from breaking my laptop were the things I had the most trouble focusing on
2025-09-16 06:02:19 +0200 <hololeap> I honestly wondered why online videos aren't more multiplexed. you could have a separate audio track for background music, for instance, if a video has it and you want to mute it
2025-09-16 06:01:46 +0200 <geekosaur> which didn't mean it was easy for me
2025-09-16 06:01:34 +0200 <geekosaur> sometimes they're necessary though. I had to watch some videos to do a couple of laptop upgrades, and text just wouldn't have provided the detail of how I needed to get at various parts without breaking things
2025-09-16 06:00:35 +0200merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-09-16 06:00:07 +0200 <StatisticalIndep> I’d develop a semantic video format. Because the structure can be automatically retrieved from the pauses in speech. (Unless it’s one of those insane editors that cut out the pauses between sentences, making it jarring to listen to.)
2025-09-16 06:00:07 +0200 <StatisticalIndep> geekosaur: Yes, videos have a massive flaw: They have zero semantic structure and a fixed speed. Unlike text, that has words and sentences and paragraphs and chapters, and where you have basically a gas pedal and can read at any speed, jump back and re-read the last n words multiple times quickly, slow down and ponder, etc …  I thought maybe
2025-09-16 05:59:55 +0200 <hololeap> but we are different people :)
2025-09-16 05:59:04 +0200 <hololeap> it actually helps my mind to have something physical to do, and I remember the contents of the podcast better if I'm working on something else
2025-09-16 05:57:54 +0200 <geekosaur> (I once pissed off my boss by throwing my cellphone on the floor because I couldn't focus on traffic and his questions at the same time)
2025-09-16 05:57:08 +0200 <geekosaur> we understand each other, if for different reasons
2025-09-16 05:56:43 +0200 <StatisticalIndep> geekosaur: Okay, I was never able to do that. My attention is quite intense. So anything on the side completely takes away my ability to concentrate on the task at hand. If you talk to me in the car that I drive, I hope you have your bones numbered. XD
2025-09-16 05:56:31 +0200 <hololeap> I just assumed but I didn't read all the backlog
2025-09-16 05:56:19 +0200trickard_(~trickard@cpe-56-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
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2025-09-16 05:55:41 +0200 <hololeap> oh, then I misunderstood
2025-09-16 05:55:11 +0200 <StatisticalIndep> hololeap: No, I’m only using Haskell. But I wanted to try to code a small libraries for transparently persistent values. Similar to IORef, but for on-disk data at a position in a file.
2025-09-16 05:55:03 +0200 <hololeap> when you're working on a menial job you can keep your mind from getting bored. I also sometimes re-listen to a podcast if I spaced out or didn't understand something
2025-09-16 05:54:46 +0200 <geekosaur> my pet peeve is youtube videos as the only way to learn about something, but that's in large part due to those sensory issues as well
2025-09-16 05:54:36 +0200 <jreicher> There was a perl6 implementation written in Haskell. You could reverse that.
2025-09-16 05:53:32 +0200 <StatisticalIndep> jreicher: You seem to take it seriously. :) … It’s more of a “Hey, what’s the craziest thing we can do?”. Like the inline-asm package. XD
2025-09-16 05:53:21 +0200 <hololeap> that is 100% why I listen to podcasts
2025-09-16 05:52:59 +0200 <geekosaur> )
2025-09-16 05:52:58 +0200 <hololeap> yeah you can listen while doing things that require your focus outside a computer
2025-09-16 05:52:56 +0200 <geekosaur> (I should note that I don't listen to podcasts either. And didn't do what I just suggested, because driving has always been difficult for me due to sensory issues_
2025-09-16 05:52:19 +0200 <geekosaur> you can listen to a podcast while driving without taking your eyes from the road
2025-09-16 05:51:52 +0200 <geekosaur> sharing's a thing
2025-09-16 05:51:51 +0200 <StatisticalIndep> seeing from my POV.
2025-09-16 05:51:51 +0200 <StatisticalIndep> hololeap: Maybe you can answer a question I had for some time: Why do people listen to podcasts? Like live streams, they take such a *huge* amount of time, and are extremely verbose. At least that was my experience. I would like to understand the point of view of people who listen to them, because there must be a reason for them, that I am not
2025-09-16 05:51:47 +0200 <geekosaur> StatisticalIndep, you could do that but don't be surprised if "unrelated" things change their values also
2025-09-16 05:51:15 +0200 <hololeap> I haven't read all the backlog but it sounds like StatisticalIndep is using another lang via FFI
2025-09-16 05:49:59 +0200peterbecich(~Thunderbi@syn-172-222-149-049.res.spectrum.com) peterbecich
2025-09-16 05:49:46 +0200merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-09-16 05:49:32 +0200 <jreicher> StatisticalIndep: you want to go behind the back of the runtime providing you the safety that draws you to it in the first place? (Or have I misunderstood?)
2025-09-16 05:49:15 +0200 <hololeap> I'd never typed "haskell" into the search bar for podcasts before that
2025-09-16 05:48:18 +0200 <hololeap> I recently discovered the Haskell Interlude podcast
2025-09-16 05:48:18 +0200 <StatisticalIndep> I wonder if it’s possible to be very cheeky, and point a … uuum… completely unrelated (I swear) pointer to that same compact region, and write different values into variables, without telling the runtime. :D
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