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2025-09-01 01:41:01 +0200 <monochrom> That whole "function binding vs variable binding" business. Perl repels me for the same reason.
2025-09-01 01:40:25 +0200 <EvanR> or the frankenlanguage purescript xD
2025-09-01 01:39:58 +0200 <monochrom> Not bothering. Lisp has other things that repel me. I will just use Haskell or Javascript.
2025-09-01 01:39:18 +0200 <twb> CL is "static typing later" not "static typing never"
2025-09-01 01:39:02 +0200 <twb> monochrom: you can declaim types in lisp
2025-09-01 01:38:55 +0200merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-09-01 01:38:10 +0200 <monochrom> I feel like Python is not too badly write-only.
2025-09-01 01:37:46 +0200 <monochrom> Perl
2025-09-01 01:37:39 +0200 <EvanR> ruby
2025-09-01 01:37:37 +0200 <EvanR> PHP, python, etc, is write only code
2025-09-01 01:37:24 +0200 <jreicher> You could even do nondeterministic code that way. :p
2025-09-01 01:37:11 +0200 <monochrom> s/form/former/
2025-09-01 01:37:02 +0200 <monochrom> On the upside, since the form just has to be in my head, it can be any arbitrarily undecidable dependent typing.
2025-09-01 01:36:20 +0200 <monochrom> I write typed code in my head, then perform type erasure when I spit out shell scripts or Lisp or Prolog or...
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2025-09-01 01:36:06 +0200 <jreicher> Writing something that doesn't work is a valuable learning experience.
2025-09-01 01:35:52 +0200 <twb> and also anything over 80 bytes long must be strongly typed
2025-09-01 01:35:47 +0200 <jreicher> And that's pretty much why it's OK for a first programming language.
2025-09-01 01:35:17 +0200 <twb> yeah exactly
2025-09-01 01:35:10 +0200 <jreicher> twb: My rules is weakly typed code is OK if it's OK for it to not work. :)
2025-09-01 01:35:04 +0200 <twb> But I wouldn't write scripts in it that were good enough to commit in git
2025-09-01 01:34:55 +0200trickard_(~trickard@cpe-53-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
2025-09-01 01:34:50 +0200 <twb> so e.g. I do not replace bash with ghci for interactive login shell
2025-09-01 01:34:42 +0200trickard_(~trickard@cpe-53-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-09-01 01:34:38 +0200 <twb> jreicher: my general rule is that weakly typed code is OK if it's only going to run once
2025-09-01 01:33:56 +0200 <jreicher> twb: I feel like it's a pretty thin line between untyped and types as weak as bash or PHP.