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| 2025-06-05 22:53:20 +0200 | <__monty__> | It's required to run the Shakefile, that's all. I'm just hoping there's a nice way to specify it in a Cabal file to be made available. Is a hypothetical script component with "run-depends: base, aeson, shake" really so outrageous? |
| 2025-06-05 22:51:19 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> good question, it seems underdocumented |
| 2025-06-05 22:51:07 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 2025-06-05 22:50:43 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-06-05 22:48:57 +0200 | Unicorn_Princess | (~Unicorn_P@user/Unicorn-Princess/x-3540542) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-06-05 22:48:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | okay, that's more or less what I expected, so where does this "shake" executable come in? |
| 2025-06-05 22:48:43 +0200 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-51-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-06-05 22:48:30 +0200 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-51-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-06-05 22:47:35 +0200 | <sclv> | its a haskell program. |
| 2025-06-05 22:47:35 +0200 | <sclv> | this is what a shakefile looks like. it has a main function and everything: https://shakebuild.com/manual#running |
| 2025-06-05 22:47:34 +0200 | <__monty__> | No, my tooling sets up the dependencies but that tooling does so by interpreting a Cabal file. |
| 2025-06-05 22:47:20 +0200 | <geekosaur> | or are you asking shake to do what it doesn't? |
| 2025-06-05 22:46:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | so what you really want is for shake tpo understand build dependencies? |
| 2025-06-05 22:46:51 +0200 | <sclv> | a shakefile is literally an executable script. thats how it works. compiling vs interpreting is simply a matter of efficiency and optimization. |
| 2025-06-05 22:46:25 +0200 | <geekosaur> | well, no, if they don't need to be rebuilt they don't |
| 2025-06-05 22:46:16 +0200 | <EvanR> | it gets the same results in the end which is why I was curious what difference it makes |
| 2025-06-05 22:46:10 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 2025-06-05 22:46:01 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> sclv, geekosaur: do cabal scripts _always_ compile now ? |
| 2025-06-05 22:45:25 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 2025-06-05 22:45:03 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-06-05 22:44:41 +0200 | <sclv> | it used to interpret then people fixed it |
| 2025-06-05 22:44:37 +0200 | <EvanR> | compiling vs interpreting is subjective |
| 2025-06-05 22:44:35 +0200 | <__monty__> | I don't know why everyone's assuming I want to execute the Shakefile as if it's an executable? I just want to invoke `shake myShakefile.hs`. |
| 2025-06-05 22:44:27 +0200 | <sclv> | there’s no downside to how cabal does scripts |
| 2025-06-05 22:44:17 +0200 | <sclv> | the hard part isn’t compiling its making deps available. after that compiling is just an efficiency optimization |
| 2025-06-05 22:43:49 +0200 | <__monty__> | The problem with an executable component is just that `cabal build` does too much. I don't need the Shakefile to be compiled. |
| 2025-06-05 22:43:46 +0200 | <geekosaur> | then you want a kernel module to recognize Shakefiles??? how exactly do you think this is supposed to work? |
| 2025-06-05 22:43:46 +0200 | <sclv> | why |
| 2025-06-05 22:43:29 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-06-05 22:43:13 +0200 | <__monty__> | Not Cabal nor Stack nor Nix. |
| 2025-06-05 22:43:00 +0200 | <__monty__> | I'm really quite certain I don't want a shebang at all in my Shakefile. |
| 2025-06-05 22:42:30 +0200 | <geekosaur> | no, I think they want an interpreted cabal script, which currently doesn't exist |
| 2025-06-05 22:42:22 +0200 | <__monty__> | I think "Make Shake available" isn't a great fit for a Cabal file either. There's build-tool depends or something but it's not really a build tool. |
| 2025-06-05 22:42:11 +0200 | <EvanR> | what's the problem with an executable |
| 2025-06-05 22:42:05 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> why ? |
| 2025-06-05 22:41:55 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> you currently have a single Shakefile.hs. But you want to make it a cabal project ? |
| 2025-06-05 22:41:00 +0200 | <__monty__> | I'm not annoyed. I suspect there's no better fit than an executable component. |
| 2025-06-05 22:40:30 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> anyway I don't want to annoy you. I think Shake scripts are awesome |
| 2025-06-05 22:40:26 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 2025-06-05 22:40:04 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-06-05 22:39:57 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> your original question _seemed_ clear... :) |
| 2025-06-05 22:39:53 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:fdb0:a3b6:295:d798) |
| 2025-06-05 22:39:16 +0200 | hughjfchen | (~hughjfche@vmi2417424.contaboserver.net) hughjfchen |
| 2025-06-05 22:39:04 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I guess I'm unclear what you want |
| 2025-06-05 22:38:58 +0200 | jle` | (~jle`@2603:8001:3b00:11:4ad5:4a75:b2fe:7fbe) jle` |
| 2025-06-05 22:38:52 +0200 | hughjfchen | (~hughjfche@vmi2417424.contaboserver.net) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-06-05 22:38:47 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-06-05 22:38:41 +0200 | jle` | (~jle`@2603:8001:3b00:11:ed10:7791:af4e:7281) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2025-06-05 22:38:13 +0200 | <__monty__> | But that's another option that doesn't achieve what I want. I don't want a single-file project. The code for the project happens to be in a single file but it needn't be. It's just that "non-compiled script with dependencies" doesn't seem to fit my understanding of the Cabal model. |
| 2025-06-05 22:35:40 +0200 | jmcantrell | (~weechat@user/jmcantrell) jmcantrell |