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2025-05-23 21:05:55 +0200target_i(~target_i@user/target-i/x-6023099) target_i
2025-05-23 21:04:44 +0200merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-05-23 21:03:47 +0200 <EvanR> how many levels of flawed premises are there
2025-05-23 21:03:46 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> it's sometimes great sometimes awful but kind of like traditional media, it's definitely not the same as reality
2025-05-23 21:03:45 +0200 <monochrom> __monty__: My https://www.vex.net/~trebla/haskell/cont.xhtml#Cont uses "ContOf" and "unCont". (Back then I didn't think of "ofCont".)
2025-05-23 21:03:36 +0200 <EvanR> exactly
2025-05-23 21:03:35 +0200 <hellwolf> I never understood that argument.
2025-05-23 21:03:29 +0200 <hellwolf> what's wrong with trying to be "elites", or trying to be better?
2025-05-23 21:03:06 +0200 <EvanR> it's great
2025-05-23 21:03:01 +0200 <EvanR> oh yeah that thing with 100% false information and conspiracy theory
2025-05-23 21:02:15 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> pff social media...
2025-05-23 21:02:04 +0200 <monochrom> But you look at social media you feel like there is no exception.
2025-05-23 21:01:59 +0200 <EvanR> yes hellwolf show these defendees what you're working on
2025-05-23 21:01:41 +0200jcarpenter2(~lol@2603:3016:1e01:b960:307d:f5b5:c6a2:664f) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2025-05-23 21:01:40 +0200 <monochrom> or some people. Of course everything I said should be quantified by "most" not really "all".
2025-05-23 21:01:35 +0200 <__monty__> monochrom: Have a code snipped using that newtype naming?
2025-05-23 21:01:22 +0200sabathan2(~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr)
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2025-05-23 21:00:46 +0200caconym7(~caconym@user/caconym) caconym
2025-05-23 21:00:30 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> well it's possible to influence minds sometimes.. but yes for real advice we'd need to know more context
2025-05-23 21:00:06 +0200caconym7(~caconym@user/caconym) (Quit: bye)
2025-05-23 20:58:21 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> hellwolf if you are using haskell productively yourself, speaking about that can be convincing. You might be still deep in DSL implementation though
2025-05-23 20:58:09 +0200 <monochrom> But again, that still won't *win*. People have already made up their minds.
2025-05-23 20:57:51 +0200 <monochrom> I think I can "win" by pointing out that I use Haskell and I am neither elite nor haxxors.
2025-05-23 20:57:41 +0200lol_(~lol@2603:3016:1e01:b960:39f8:84ab:20bd:ae78)
2025-05-23 20:57:06 +0200 <EvanR> you can't win this argument
2025-05-23 20:56:43 +0200 <EvanR> stupid: haskell is only for the elite haxxors
2025-05-23 20:56:10 +0200 <EvanR> there are so many stupid justifications for "not haskell" it's ridiculous. Makes it hard to get to the good justifications for not haskell!
2025-05-23 20:55:47 +0200 <monochrom> Haha HUGS2026 includes TREX (extensible records) and therefore trumps GHC. >:)
2025-05-23 20:53:50 +0200sabathan2(~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr)
2025-05-23 20:53:42 +0200 <hellwolf> Yea... showing it is the way; people are rather skeptical, otherwise.
2025-05-23 20:53:42 +0200 <hellwolf> 05-23 21:39 <sm> or better, show it. Not easy
2025-05-23 20:53:41 +0200merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
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2025-05-23 20:53:25 +0200 <hellwolf> HUGS2026?
2025-05-23 20:51:32 +0200humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect
2025-05-23 20:49:01 +0200merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-05-23 20:47:43 +0200sabathan2(~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr)
2025-05-23 20:47:33 +0200ljdarj(~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj
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2025-05-23 20:44:45 +0200 <monochrom> Anyone wanna volunteer to add GHC2021 to Hugs? >:)
2025-05-23 20:44:16 +0200 <monochrom> de facto there is no difference >:)
2025-05-23 20:43:30 +0200 <sm> (language extensions, I meant)
2025-05-23 20:42:52 +0200dyniec(~dyniec@dybiec.info)
2025-05-23 20:42:33 +0200 <sm> I think when we are discussing "Haskell", we should distinguish language and ecosystem. Outsiders see it all as "Haskell", we insiders often focus on the core language and conveniently forget about tools, documentation, compiler extensions...
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