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2025-05-14 12:14:39 +0200aditya_an1l(~aditya_an@user/aditya-an1l:63825) aditya_an1l
2025-05-14 12:08:18 +0200CiaoSen(~Jura@2a02:8071:64e1:da0:5a47:caff:fe78:33db) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
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2025-05-14 11:57:37 +0200lortabac(~lortabac@2a0d:e487:51f:6bb1:14ba:78f6:7f54:fc89) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
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2025-05-14 11:51:12 +0200 <ski> mhm. i spell it "Emacs", unless i'm specifically talking about the executable. ditton with XTerm, &c.
2025-05-14 11:48:01 +0200poscat(~poscat@user/poscat) poscat
2025-05-14 11:46:48 +0200j1n37-(~j1n37@user/j1n37) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
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2025-05-14 11:45:45 +0200j1n37(~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37
2025-05-14 11:43:04 +0200 <__monty__> ski: It looks like you try to capitalize things correctly so you might be interested, https://brand.systemd.io/#:~:text=Spelling
2025-05-14 11:27:49 +0200 <esnos> tomsmeding: I know, but I want to set it up myself and some channels, like #emacs, doesn't keep public logs
2025-05-14 11:26:27 +0200 <tomsmeding> esnos: this is probably stating the obvious, but some channels, like this one, keep public logs -- see the /topic
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2025-05-14 11:16:50 +0200j1n37-(~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37
2025-05-14 11:05:52 +0200sabathan2(~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr)
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2025-05-14 11:05:21 +0200merijn(~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2025-05-14 11:05:12 +0200skihasn't used ERC .. better ask #emacs or #erc about specifics of that
2025-05-14 11:04:11 +0200 <ski> (oh, and iirc, SystemD, at least some years ago, liked to kill processes that you had started in the background, to not be terminated on disconnect/hangup. so if your server has that, you might need to convince it to not kill your session, after you disconnect)
2025-05-14 11:03:31 +0200 <esnos> I will than look into emacs daemon for logging and into znc, thank you ski for help
2025-05-14 11:02:56 +0200skiuses GNU Screen, for this
2025-05-14 11:02:46 +0200 <ski> presumably you can do that with emacs daemon
2025-05-14 11:02:33 +0200comerijn(~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn
2025-05-14 11:02:29 +0200 <esnos> Okay
2025-05-14 11:02:12 +0200lortabac(~lortabac@2a0d:e487:51f:6bb1:14ba:78f6:7f54:fc89)
2025-05-14 11:01:55 +0200 <ski> so, you would like to run it, in a way that doesn't terminate, in case the connection breaks
2025-05-14 11:00:56 +0200 <ski> because you might have to disconnect from the server (e.g. when turning off local machine), and later want to reconnect and check how your IRC session is doing
2025-05-14 11:00:07 +0200 <ski> (i do recall some time, opening a graphical frame via `emacsclient -c', under X, and X crashing, the whole Emacs session (which was running under GNU Screen, started before X) crashed, annoyingly. dunno whether that would be the case with `emacsclient -nw' (not running under GNU Screen or TMux) under X, and then X crashing; now how doing that remotely might affect it)
2025-05-14 10:59:12 +0200 <esnos> But why just opening emacs and openning erc on server won't work?
2025-05-14 10:57:23 +0200 <ski> hm, i don't recall testing how that behaves, if you try to connect to it non-locally, forwarding X, and then the connection breaks
2025-05-14 10:57:02 +0200YoungFrog(~youngfrog@2a02:a03f:ca07:f900:a9b8:a3d6:d29f:10e6) youngfrog
2025-05-14 10:56:22 +0200 <esnos> On my pc I don't use emacs daemon
2025-05-14 10:56:17 +0200 <ski> i mean like `M-x server-start'
2025-05-14 10:56:05 +0200 <esnos> I don't have server yet
2025-05-14 10:56:00 +0200 <ski> (or starting emacs server)
2025-05-14 10:55:42 +0200 <ski> more or less. are you running emacs daemon ?
2025-05-14 10:54:48 +0200 <esnos> So if I just use erc on server, than it will be the same as using znc?
2025-05-14 10:54:25 +0200YoungFrog(~youngfrog@39.129-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2025-05-14 10:54:05 +0200econo_(uid147250@id-147250.tinside.irccloud.com) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2025-05-14 10:43:53 +0200 <TMA> esnos: ski said it faster
2025-05-14 10:43:29 +0200 <TMA> esnos: there is nothing on the IRC server that keeps the messages for you. you need an always connected client. znc is just one option for an always-on client
2025-05-14 10:42:54 +0200chele(~chele@user/chele) chele
2025-05-14 10:42:52 +0200 <ski> that could be a bouncer (like ZNC,&c.), or could be a terminal client, running under GNU Screen / TMux. there are also some things, like IRCCloud which provide a bouncer for you
2025-05-14 10:41:43 +0200 <ski> you make sure you have a client running, on some machine that stays connected
2025-05-14 10:40:13 +0200lortabac(~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:55ab:e185:7f81:54a4) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2025-05-14 10:40:10 +0200 <esnos> Hi, I know this is not haskell related question, but if I want to log messages from other channel for future reading when I'm not connected, should I install znc on server, or there is there other way to log messages when I'm not connected? I'm new to irc and it's much harder to grasp then matrix or discord
2025-05-14 10:38:09 +0200Square2(~Square@user/square) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)