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| 2025-05-14 00:57:11 +0200 | <sim590> | At least, we can put it in `cabal.project`, so it's not shipped anywhere. |
| 2025-05-14 00:57:11 +0200 | <int-e> | (and you'll run into this with *every* haskell project as long as you use this particular ghc, and probably other versions shipped with ghc-up too) |
| 2025-05-14 00:56:06 +0200 | <int-e> | it's a local configuration so putting it into the project is wrong |
| 2025-05-14 00:56:03 +0200 | <sim590> | I thought ourproject.cabal in the `ghc-options:` section. |
| 2025-05-14 00:55:44 +0200 | <sim590> | int-e: It would not be in the invocation, but in a config file in the project repo. |
| 2025-05-14 00:55:01 +0200 | <int-e> | sim590: which is what cabal would do if you instructed it accordingly, and doing it in the config file feels less painful than doing it on every invokation |
| 2025-05-14 00:54:25 +0200 | <sim590> | So we could just protect ourselves with an option in a `cabal.project` file or literally inside the cabal file. |
| 2025-05-14 00:53:54 +0200 | <sim590> | int-e: isn't it possible to just pass an option to GHC to force not using ld.gold, but stick to plain ld ? |
| 2025-05-14 00:53:02 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-05-14 00:52:55 +0200 | <int-e> | glhf |
| 2025-05-14 00:52:30 +0200 | <int-e> | sim590: Anyway. The path of least resistance is to install ld.gold (it may be deprecated but it works as a linker). The next easiest idea is to tweak, hmm, ld-location I suppose in ~/.cabal/config. After that it's editing the settings file inside the ghc distribution and after that it's finding a "better" ghc package. |
| 2025-05-14 00:52:28 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> and, welcome |
| 2025-05-14 00:52:00 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> hi zarek, cardano has lots of getting started and learning haskell resources doesn't it; we don't know them all here |
| 2025-05-14 00:49:36 +0200 | <zarek> | I remember this is how I solved my problems with ghcup and rest of haskell, but if this isn't solution than I don't know |
| 2025-05-14 00:48:23 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-05-14 00:48:06 +0200 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d108-173-18-100.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod |
| 2025-05-14 00:47:33 +0200 | <int-e> | zarek: it's irrelevant anyway: --with-ghc=/home/xkappel/.ghcup/bin/ghc |
| 2025-05-14 00:47:06 +0200 | <sim590> | I only got issues with debian when dist-upgrading (same as xeno11). I guess that the `binutils-gold` was removed when we did a `dist-upgrade` and that confused everything. |
| 2025-05-14 00:46:27 +0200 | <sim590> | But I actually didn't have any issue on Arch. |
| 2025-05-14 00:46:15 +0200 | <sim590> | zarek: One of my machines I use have arch and the other has debian. |
| 2025-05-14 00:45:56 +0200 | <EvanR> | forwarding that link to the other channel looks interesting |
| 2025-05-14 00:45:44 +0200 | <int-e> | (the trouble is elsewhere) |
| 2025-05-14 00:45:28 +0200 | <int-e> | zarek: ironically that would likely use a linker that's actually installed |
| 2025-05-14 00:44:57 +0200 | <int-e> | sim590: you can override the linker in your cabal config, that's probably the easier route for making progress right now |
| 2025-05-14 00:44:32 +0200 | <zarek> | sim590: by any chance did you install ghc by pacman in arch linux? If yes, thank I suggest nuke everything and install everything from curl link |
| 2025-05-14 00:44:25 +0200 | <sim590> | int-e: yep. |
| 2025-05-14 00:44:20 +0200 | Lord_of_Life_ | Lord_of_Life |
| 2025-05-14 00:44:09 +0200 | <int-e> | sim590: maybe. afaics you're using ghc-up so you're relying on that upstream's build configuration |
| 2025-05-14 00:43:58 +0200 | <EvanR> | there is #haskell-game and HaskellGameDev discord, with its own links and references, though things have slowed down in the last few months |
| 2025-05-14 00:43:26 +0200 | <sim590> | int-e: So, it's something that would be likely to change by itself if GHC was upgraded, right? |
| 2025-05-14 00:43:06 +0200 | Lord_of_Life | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2025-05-14 00:42:54 +0200 | Lord_of_Life_ | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life |
| 2025-05-14 00:42:30 +0200 | <zarek> | EvanR: Would you recommend some library for it or blog post/book about programming game in haskell? I only today saw this video about programming game in haskell in haskell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MNTerD8IuI&list=PLcGKfGEEONaCyiY7-IV6boavjCIG7q1vd& |
| 2025-05-14 00:42:23 +0200 | <int-e> | Or, technically, not the binary but the `settings` files it ships with. So if you feel adventerous you can change that. |
| 2025-05-14 00:41:19 +0200 | <int-e> | sim590: my guess is that using ld.gold is baked into the ghc binary you're using. that's what the ghc --info comment was about |
| 2025-05-14 00:40:11 +0200 | <sim590> | int-e, tomsmeding: seems like ld.gold is deprecated apprently. But cabal still uses it by default? Shouldn't it stop to use it at some point? |
| 2025-05-14 00:39:47 +0200 | <zarek> | EvanR: Yes, I'm also interested |
| 2025-05-14 00:37:37 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-05-14 00:37:02 +0200 | sord937 | (~sord937@gateway/tor-sasl/sord937) (Quit: sord937) |
| 2025-05-14 00:35:30 +0200 | <EvanR> | it is surely to make you collide with more abstractions |
| 2025-05-14 00:35:17 +0200 | <EvanR> | zarek, dunno about cardano but would you be interested in game programming |
| 2025-05-14 00:33:50 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 2025-05-14 00:32:36 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-05-14 00:31:39 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-05-14 00:31:07 +0200 | pavonia | (~user@user/siracusa) siracusa |
| 2025-05-14 00:26:52 +0200 | jmcantrell | (~weechat@user/jmcantrell) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2025-05-14 00:21:37 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-05-14 00:16:48 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-05-14 00:15:24 +0200 | <zarek> | And do I need to learn about some more abstractions? I know everything up to state monads, but I don't know gadts or arrows |
| 2025-05-14 00:14:31 +0200 | <zarek> | Hi, I already done beginner books about haskell and now I want to do something with Cardano, do you know how can I start? |