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| 2025-05-12 14:11:44 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
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| 2025-05-12 12:15:48 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | only computational complexity has a chance of being hardware-independent, though I wouldn't be surprised if you can come up with edge cases where a compiler is able to e.g. optimise a loop away to a constant operation on one architecture but not on another |
| 2025-05-12 12:14:48 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | modern CPUs have counters for this |
| 2025-05-12 12:14:38 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | somewhat related, though: if you accept hardware-bound results, you can strongly reduce noise effects by not measuring time but number of instructions executed |
| 2025-05-12 12:14:03 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | there is no such thing as hardware-independent performance |
| 2025-05-12 12:13:58 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | __monty__: the optimisations that a compiler does to your code are instruction-set architecture dependent |
| 2025-05-12 12:12:29 +0200 | <Hecate> | __monty__: there's not "nothing", but there's few things. Useful things are still bound to the laws of physics |
| 2025-05-12 12:11:15 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 2025-05-12 12:07:48 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-05-12 12:02:27 +0200 | <__monty__> | This is more of an inquiry for theoretical results. I find it hard to believe that there's *nothing* you can measure independently from a specific hardware configuration. |
| 2025-05-12 12:01:27 +0200 | euleritian | (~euleritia@ip4d17f864.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 2025-05-12 12:01:04 +0200 | <__monty__> | No, that's not actually what I want. |
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| 2025-05-12 11:59:09 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-56.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-05-12 11:58:25 +0200 | comerijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
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| 2025-05-12 11:52:53 +0200 | JeremyB99 | (~JeremyB99@172.87.18.1) |
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| 2025-05-12 11:51:21 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:ecd3:a00f:e9d8:9bf6) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2025-05-12 11:47:14 +0200 | manwithluck | (~manwithlu@2a09:bac1:5b80:20::38a:2d) manwithluck |
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| 2025-05-12 11:44:59 +0200 | sord937 | (~sord937@gateway/tor-sasl/sord937) sord937 |