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| 2025-05-07 21:02:21 +0200 | sprotte24 | (~sprotte24@p200300d16f3ca800283c8f0415b7b94b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 2025-05-07 21:00:45 +0200 | caconym7 | (~caconym@user/caconym) caconym |
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| 2025-05-07 20:45:19 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-05-07 20:35:23 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_(grammar)#Historical_development ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytic_language |
| 2025-05-07 20:34:58 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | mauke: romance languages in general became more analytic, and I guess the development of articles came along with that? |
| 2025-05-07 20:34:15 +0200 | ft | (~ft@p4fc2a6e6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) ft |
| 2025-05-07 20:31:34 +0200 | euleritian | (~euleritia@ip4d17f864.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
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| 2025-05-07 20:22:20 +0200 | Frostillicus_1 | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-56.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2025-05-07 20:19:54 +0200 | <int-e> | it's a mystery |
| 2025-05-07 20:19:33 +0200 | <mauke> | also, why did all the romance languages grow articles? |
| 2025-05-07 20:18:53 +0200 | <mauke> | that'll be /s/ in french/english, /tsh/ in italian/romanian, and /ts/ in german. or something like that |
| 2025-05-07 20:18:21 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-05-07 20:14:29 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | ('c' was always pronounced /k/ in Latin, but it evolved an /s/ pronunciation depending on the following vowel) |
| 2025-05-07 20:13:44 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-05-07 20:11:55 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | (languages can also get more complex all by themselves, without even inventing new words: what was previously just one sound, typically written with one, consistent letter, evolves to multiple sounds in different sound contexts -- still written with the same letter, but that letter's pronunciation now differs depending on the context) |
| 2025-05-07 20:10:09 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | on the flip side, new words get invented, and words, grammar and morphology (word formation rules) get loaned from other languages, and so languages get more complicated too, at the same time |
| 2025-05-07 20:09:20 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37 |
| 2025-05-07 20:09:11 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | Dutch is simplified pre-German; French, Spanish, Italian are simplified Latin |
| 2025-05-07 20:08:53 +0200 | j1n37- | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-05-07 20:08:46 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | magic_rb: re language that simplified: the vast majority of languages simplify in some ways by themselves over the centuries; to compensate, they may get more complicated / larger in other ways |
| 2025-05-07 20:06:44 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | (It's nice when you're Dutch. "Eigentum" just sounds like a German-y pronunciation of the corresponding Dutch word.) |
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