2025/05/04

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2025-05-04 21:52:04 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> well a runghc shebang script could pass ghc opts to runghc
2025-05-04 21:51:43 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> but if you want people to write scripts using your lib easily.. then no
2025-05-04 21:51:40 +0200 <hellwolf> cabal, or stack has, I know of.
2025-05-04 21:51:35 +0200 <hellwolf> runghc has script header too?
2025-05-04 21:51:28 +0200 <hellwolf> that's right
2025-05-04 21:51:15 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> though you could specify them in the script header too I expect
2025-05-04 21:51:06 +0200 <hellwolf> though, I do have a few to list beyond GHC2024 :D
2025-05-04 21:50:37 +0200 <hellwolf> I learned that now.
2025-05-04 21:50:30 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> more verbosity.. but more robust
2025-05-04 21:50:30 +0200rvalue-rvalue
2025-05-04 21:50:07 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> that's why a lot of people write them in the modules
2025-05-04 21:49:27 +0200 <hellwolf> gosh, side effect of relying on build system to list default extensions.
2025-05-04 21:49:11 +0200 <hellwolf> I tried runghc: it has one other problem, I listed some defaultr extensions in cabal file :D
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2025-05-04 21:46:12 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> yes, you can add the --system-ghc and --no-install-ghc flags
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2025-05-04 21:45:18 +0200 <tomsmeding> sm: can you also put `system-ghc: True` in a stack script somehow, so that it uses GHCup's GHC?
2025-05-04 21:44:54 +0200rvalue(~rvalue@user/rvalue) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-05-04 21:44:45 +0200 <hellwolf> but you said no stack.yml needed, hmm
2025-05-04 21:44:12 +0200 <hellwolf> *two
2025-05-04 21:44:03 +0200 <hellwolf> sm: thanks for the tips... I am just wary of having to maintain to build system.
2025-05-04 21:43:58 +0200 <tomsmeding> hellwolf: geekosaur's suggestion of `cabal install --lib --package-env=. ...` sounds like the least-friction approach with cabal, maybe
2025-05-04 21:43:46 +0200rvalue-(~rvalue@user/rvalue) rvalue
2025-05-04 21:43:36 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> just to be clear hellwolf, and of course use what you prefer: a stack script doesn't require "configuring stack", eg no stack.yaml needed
2025-05-04 21:43:30 +0200 <hellwolf> maybe I should really do that, for now.
2025-05-04 21:43:12 +0200 <hellwolf> I know how to run raw ghc with --package-db...
2025-05-04 21:42:45 +0200 <hellwolf> Easy said than done, due to time. I go to zurihac pre event though, hopefully I can learn from some people to bootstrap Cabal contribution there.
2025-05-04 21:42:19 +0200 <geekosaur> meanwhile the only quickfix I can think of is `cabal install --lib --package-env=. <dependencies of script>`, then `runghc script.hs` shopuld work in that directory
2025-05-04 21:42:13 +0200 <hellwolf> I cannot. But now I learned enough of how these works, after setting up my own customized haskell playground instances, I think I can manage. But maybe I should contribute to Cabal so more people can benefit.
2025-05-04 21:41:26 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> I guess you can't use a simple runhaskell script because you want to depend on packages
2025-05-04 21:41:21 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> stack is easy
2025-05-04 21:41:15 +0200 <geekosaur> might put up a cabal issue then
2025-05-04 21:41:06 +0200 <hellwolf> But my project is too big and I haven't configured stack :/
2025-05-04 21:40:50 +0200 <hellwolf> I remember that behaviour of stack, I really like
2025-05-04 21:39:10 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> 👍️
2025-05-04 21:38:34 +0200 <geekosaur> sm, it's not explicitly stated but look for "The executable is cached…"
2025-05-04 21:38:31 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> a stack script will run interpreted by default, unless you add --compile
2025-05-04 21:38:04 +0200 <hellwolf> though, repl maybe is -O0, it might be a bit slower to compile at some point. Currently, compiling the target binary itself seems the slow one.
2025-05-04 21:37:41 +0200Arpad(~Arpad@2a02:ab88:38d:4700::b0d5)
2025-05-04 21:37:31 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> geekosaur I believe you, but it's not mentioned at https://cabal.readthedocs.io/en/latest/cabal-commands.html#cabal-run
2025-05-04 21:37:01 +0200 <hellwolf> and it seems slower than just repl it.
2025-05-04 21:36:53 +0200 <hellwolf> so, this is the context: for my edsl project, compiling to a binary seems unnecessary, since all it does is to spit out the code once to the stdout.
2025-05-04 21:36:21 +0200 <geekosaur> I don't thinlk there's a reasonable way to make runghc work for this
2025-05-04 21:36:21 +0200 <monochrom> Even for .cabal/packages too.
2025-05-04 21:36:00 +0200 <geekosaur> echo :main (args, if needed) | cabal repl --repl-args Foo.hs
2025-05-04 21:35:34 +0200 <monochrom> Oh I add some commands in my .profile to clean out that. Because I already need that for my $HOME/tmp and $HOME/Downloads
2025-05-04 21:35:22 +0200 <hellwolf> shall I do unix way "echo main" | cabal repl?
2025-05-04 21:35:18 +0200 <geekosaur> not easily, I think
2025-05-04 21:34:57 +0200 <hellwolf> can I specify entry point for a "cabal repl" session to emulate that?