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2025-11-07 14:46:13 +0100 <tomsmeding> hm, 9.10 indeed
2025-11-07 14:45:54 +0100 <tomsmeding> Morj: GHC.Types
2025-11-07 14:44:23 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> My ghci 9.6 doesn't have Data.List.List indeed, but :i [] still refers to some 'List' from who knows where
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2025-11-07 14:42:34 +0100 <int-e> tomsmeding: That's new... since 9.10? Odd.
2025-11-07 14:41:55 +0100 <Square2> int-e, nice. Thanks
2025-11-07 14:40:53 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> Are there any libraries to help me write (mostly) the same code for sqlite and postgres? I know of persistent, but I don't really love it
2025-11-07 14:40:30 +0100 <tomsmeding> int-e: it's also in Data.List
2025-11-07 14:40:26 +0100 <yahb2> type List :: * -> * ; data List a = [] | a : [a] ; -- Defined in ‘GHC.Types’ ; instance Traversable [] ; -- Defined in ‘GHC.Internal.Data.Traversable’ ; instance MonadFail [] ; -- Defined in...
2025-11-07 14:40:26 +0100 <tomsmeding> % :i Data.List.List
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2025-11-07 14:38:59 +0100 <tomsmeding> then `:i []` is wrong, because the List should have been qualified
2025-11-07 14:38:45 +0100 <int-e> see, it works ;-)
2025-11-07 14:38:40 +0100 <yahb2> type List :: * -> * ; data List a = [] | a : [a] ; -- Defined in ‘GHC.Types’ ; instance Traversable [] ; -- Defined in ‘GHC.Internal.Data.Traversable’ ; instance MonadFail [] ; -- Defined in...
2025-11-07 14:38:40 +0100 <int-e> % :i List
2025-11-07 14:38:36 +0100 <yahb2> <no output>
2025-11-07 14:38:36 +0100 <int-e> % import GHC.Types
2025-11-07 14:38:36 +0100 <tomsmeding> turns out that since GHC 9.6, it prints `data List a` there
2025-11-07 14:38:26 +0100 <yahb2> type List :: * -> * ; data List a = [] | a : [a] ; -- Defined in ‘GHC.Types’ ; instance Traversable [] ; -- Defined in ‘GHC.Internal.Data.Traversable’ ; instance MonadFail [] ; -- Defined in...
2025-11-07 14:38:26 +0100 <tomsmeding> % :i []
2025-11-07 14:38:23 +0100 <tomsmeding> interesting:
2025-11-07 14:37:31 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> You can do ":info []"
2025-11-07 14:37:21 +0100 <tomsmeding> because List does not exist?
2025-11-07 14:36:25 +0100 <Square2> In ghci, why can I do `:info Maybe` but not `:info List`?
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2025-11-07 13:41:57 +0100 <__monty__> dminuoso: Most of my linting experience is with Pylint and no I don't know of a way to configure it from outside the source files. Don't really see a good way that'd be resilient to refactoring. Can't rely on line numbers for example but even function/method names can change.
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2025-11-07 13:31:47 +0100 <lortabac> which is the right answer of course, but sometimes it's also good to consider how to improve the tool
2025-11-07 13:30:42 +0100 <lortabac> There was an article about this but I can't find it anymore. It's a kind of fallacy where people who are expert about a field/tool tend to respond to criticism with "you are doing it the wrong way"
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