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| 2025-05-07 08:07:05 +0200 | <JuanDaugherty> | so? |
| 2025-05-07 08:06:49 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> TH causes lots of problems with bootstrapping, cross compiling and breaks certain invariants |
| 2025-05-07 08:06:45 +0200 | <JuanDaugherty> | i c |
| 2025-05-07 08:06:26 +0200 | <dminuoso> | Compiler plugins. |
| 2025-05-07 08:06:24 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> Not a joke at all |
| 2025-05-07 08:06:11 +0200 | <JuanDaugherty> | is that a joke? what mechanism do you suggest for affecting haskell compile at that level? |
| 2025-05-07 08:06:08 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> Liamzee paradigm switches are useful and can make code clearer, but imperative is usually not the best one to switch to lol |
| 2025-05-07 08:06:01 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> is there a Good subset or variant of it ? that we could rebrand with a cool name like comptime ! |
| 2025-05-07 08:05:03 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> Real bad |
| 2025-05-07 08:04:52 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> TH BAD, mmkay... ? |
| 2025-05-07 08:04:34 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> oh must we |
| 2025-05-07 08:04:24 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> Ok, let's discuss bad idea: Template Haskell |
| 2025-05-07 08:04:05 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-05-07 07:58:55 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-05-07 07:58:47 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> ultimately, how things work is that people come up with ideas, other people try them, people figure out how and where they're a bad idea, and use them within limits |
| 2025-05-07 07:58:39 +0200 | <EvanR> | antidisestablishmentarians |
| 2025-05-07 07:57:55 +0200 | <JuanDaugherty> | the enemies of and parasites on doing |
| 2025-05-07 07:57:05 +0200 | <JuanDaugherty> | trashing groups is OK, like capitalist knuckleheads |
| 2025-05-07 07:55:47 +0200 | haskellbridge | sm makes a pot of tea and passes a plate of cakes around |
| 2025-05-07 07:55:31 +0200 | <JuanDaugherty> | well mean is OK just do it on principles not personalities |
| 2025-05-07 07:55:24 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> Tom has strong opinions at times, but his reasoning is sharp |
| 2025-05-07 07:55:13 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> he write awesome posts |
| 2025-05-07 07:55:00 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> come on now, nobody is attacking him. We love Tom. |
| 2025-05-07 07:54:50 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> i think this is a misunderstanding :( |
| 2025-05-07 07:54:40 +0200 | jle` | (~jle`@2603:8001:3b00:11::1156) jle` |
| 2025-05-07 07:54:40 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> i just wanted to defend him :( |
| 2025-05-07 07:54:35 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> tom isn't here to defend himself :( |
| 2025-05-07 07:54:29 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> it's late, we've got to have some fun in here |
| 2025-05-07 07:54:22 +0200 | <JuanDaugherty> | formulas like 'no more X', i turn off from dislike of sales efforts |
| 2025-05-07 07:54:16 +0200 | <EvanR> | FIGHT FIGHT |
| 2025-05-07 07:53:57 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> Liamzee what now ?? I'm sorry if I gave offense, no meanness intended! Since you brought up this article and got me thinking about it, I just hoped to hear a few more opinions |
| 2025-05-07 07:53:49 +0200 | jle` | (~jle`@2603:8001:3b00:11:43a3:4aa5:da69:7d43) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-05-07 07:53:06 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> i mean SM :( |
| 2025-05-07 07:52:39 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> but this has absolutely happened in our community |
| 2025-05-07 07:52:26 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> Liamzee: lol I wasn't referring to you |
| 2025-05-07 07:52:23 +0200 | <JuanDaugherty> | dismissed prima facie based on title |
| 2025-05-07 07:52:15 +0200 | jmcantrell | (~weechat@user/jmcantrell) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-05-07 07:52:09 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> good night |
| 2025-05-07 07:52:07 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> ugh, i regret everything i've said tonight |
| 2025-05-07 07:52:03 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> that's a bad way to discuss it |
| 2025-05-07 07:51:53 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> hey, that's mean |
| 2025-05-07 07:51:48 +0200 | <JuanDaugherty> | maerwald :) |
| 2025-05-07 07:51:45 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> so, everyone! Is the article Good or Bad ? Shall Tom get a raise or be fired ? https://h2.jaguarpaw.co.uk/posts/scrap-your-iteration-combinators/ |
| 2025-05-07 07:51:14 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> JuanDaugherty: are you suggesting to discuss the actual points people make? Ridiculous. Let me look up some of their sh*tposts on X first to discredit them ;) |
| 2025-05-07 07:51:01 +0200 | <JuanDaugherty> | all haskellers are maximalist |
| 2025-05-07 07:50:34 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> i'm not trying to attack tom, or call his ideas bad |
| 2025-05-07 07:50:10 +0200 | <JuanDaugherty> | and u could miss a gem they might emit |
| 2025-05-07 07:49:24 +0200 | <JuanDaugherty> | bad ideas usually stand as such on their own wo personal invective |
| 2025-05-07 07:48:34 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2025-05-07 07:48:28 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> my mistake here, i was just trying to promote a positive reading of tomjaguarpaw's article |