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| 2025-05-03 19:36:29 +0200 | <monochrom> | One can never escape IDs. High-level languages deceive you into thinking that you can, by not telling you that pointers and addresses look like 0xdeadbeef which are totally IDs. |
| 2025-05-03 19:36:01 +0200 | <EvanR> | instead of the main model |
| 2025-05-03 19:35:46 +0200 | <EvanR> | and in that perspective, objects nested inside each other is just one way to view the entities and relations |
| 2025-05-03 19:35:21 +0200 | <[exa]> | hm good point |
| 2025-05-03 19:34:56 +0200 | <EvanR> | so not sure if it's not part of the model |
| 2025-05-03 19:34:45 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-05-03 19:34:37 +0200 | <EvanR> | ID is what makes entities entities and not values, making the rows not redundant (and illegal in relational algebra) duplicates |
| 2025-05-03 19:34:13 +0200 | j1n37- | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37 |
| 2025-05-03 19:32:25 +0200 | <[exa]> | Possible complication: objects contain more objects and serialization has to invent sensible identifiers for these. |
| 2025-05-03 19:31:27 +0200 | <[exa]> | "exist" without knowing their "name" (URI), byt the name has to be present in all triples that describe the object.) |
| 2025-05-03 19:31:25 +0200 | <[exa]> | Are there any good approaches to serializable objects (think like aeson-style serialization) where the serialization has to contain "externally resolvable" identifiers? (Typically in databases, the ID should not be a part of object model because it's more of a reference that should be transparent and/or held by others, but has to be present in row operations. Similarly with RDF, haskellish objects |
| 2025-05-03 19:24:32 +0200 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) () |
| 2025-05-03 19:23:27 +0200 | acidjnk_new3 | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e71c4f76bcfd7e139b6b957f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) acidjnk |
| 2025-05-03 19:07:50 +0200 | ttybitnik | (~ttybitnik@user/wolper) ttybitnik |
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| 2025-05-03 18:23:14 +0200 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d108-173-18-100.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod |
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| 2025-05-03 16:08:44 +0200 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) L29Ah |
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