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| 2026-01-01 01:19:14 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-01 01:15:02 +0100 | <janus> | such a program, without interleaving, would have ambiguous types and compilation would fail. since it wouldn't be able to take the 'output' and propagate it to other constraints |
| 2026-01-01 01:13:38 +0100 | <janus> | then, it should evaluate the fundep and that should give it enough info to find the 'principal' type |
| 2026-01-01 01:13:17 +0100 | <janus> | maybe the easiest example should be something that uses mtl, and somehow has polymorphic types in both the 'input' and the 'output' type of a fundep. now, the surrounding program somehow determines one of these, and the typechecker should be able to run enough of 'regular' constraints to find out that there is this constraint on input and output |
| 2026-01-01 01:10:36 +0100 | <janus> | i still can't imagine a program that would require something like that |
| 2026-01-01 01:10:07 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-01-01 01:10:04 +0100 | <janus> | right. so it's not strictly MPTC that require interleaving |
| 2026-01-01 01:09:38 +0100 | <geekosaur> | inference isn't possible otherwise |
| 2026-01-01 01:09:24 +0100 | <geekosaur> | my understanding is that MPTCs are really only usable with either fundeps or TFs |
| 2026-01-01 01:07:51 +0100 | <janus> | if i understand correctly, fundeps only make sense with MPTC, and since fundeps are so prevalent with mtl, i wonder whether that is why you said MPTC instead of saying fundeps. since for all practical typecheckers, they will need to support both |
| 2026-01-01 01:06:47 +0100 | <janus> | [exa]: is it really just MPTC that would require type-level computation interleaved with previous typechecking? or is it about fundeps? |
| 2026-01-01 01:05:18 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-01 01:03:55 +0100 | traxex | (traxex@user/traxex) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-01 00:57:15 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2026-01-01 00:55:55 +0100 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) () |
| 2026-01-01 00:52:38 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-01 00:44:11 +0100 | Everything | (~Everythin@46.96.10.169) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2026-01-01 00:43:49 +0100 | Pixi | (~Pixi@user/pixi) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-01 00:40:38 +0100 | Pixi` | (~Pixi@user/pixi) Pixi |
| 2026-01-01 00:32:23 +0100 | Pozyomka | (~pyon@user/pyon) pyon |
| 2026-01-01 00:25:34 +0100 | <monochrom> | Do a pair of complementary things and do them well: Open a pastry bakery and a gym next to each other. (True story.) |
| 2026-01-01 00:24:58 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-01-01 00:18:17 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-01 00:16:30 +0100 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) L29Ah |
| 2026-01-01 00:15:31 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-01-01 00:10:59 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-31 23:57:35 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-12-31 23:53:14 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-31 23:40:10 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2025-12-31 23:35:44 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-31 23:32:25 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) peterbecich |
| 2025-12-31 23:28:33 +0100 | wootehfoot | (~wootehfoo@user/wootehfoot) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-12-31 23:23:48 +0100 | <geekosaur> | now I'm reminded of a TV ad which had a pizza delivery car roll up, then the pizza sign rotated into (IIRC) a real estate agent sign |
| 2025-12-31 23:23:45 +0100 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) () |
| 2025-12-31 23:21:58 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2025-12-31 23:18:29 +0100 | rekahsoft | (~rekahsoft@70.51.99.245) rekahsoft |
| 2025-12-31 23:17:16 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-31 23:13:22 +0100 | <EvanR> | another one locally which should have had that billboard: this place "pool tables and pools" |
| 2025-12-31 23:12:01 +0100 | <EvanR> | I think it was either albuquerque or atlanta, a billboard for "divorce lawyer and movers -- do one thing and do it well" |
| 2025-12-31 22:53:16 +0100 | wickedjargon | (~user@64.114.24.74) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2025-12-31 22:33:39 +0100 | <int-e> | or two, or many |
| 2025-12-31 22:33:33 +0100 | yotic | (~yotic@user/yotic) yotic |
| 2025-12-31 22:33:21 +0100 | <int-e> | that's fine because you can still have a tool for each thing |
| 2025-12-31 22:24:57 +0100 | <yin> | the probem with the "one thing" philosophy is that "thing" is not well-defined |
| 2025-12-31 22:22:49 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-12-31 22:16:15 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-31 22:12:25 +0100 | wennefer0 | (~wennefer0@user/wennefer0) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-12-31 22:11:16 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2025-12-31 22:08:08 +0100 | wennefer0 | (~wennefer0@user/wennefer0) wennefer0 |
| 2025-12-31 22:06:55 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |