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2025-12-11 19:16:10 +0100 <EvanR> return to the world
2025-12-11 19:15:58 +0100 <EvanR> level 60, you're done
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2025-12-11 19:15:06 +0100 <Rembane> Finally max level!
2025-12-11 19:14:44 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> Sadder still is that I thought I finished learning
2025-12-11 19:14:39 +0100 <EvanR> ;_;
2025-12-11 19:14:31 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> I've been learning erlang recently, and haven't seen anything about transactional semantics. Sad
2025-12-11 19:12:45 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> I haven't used erlang, but yes that sounds right, they like to throw something away if it fails
2025-12-11 19:12:01 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> same principle
2025-12-11 19:11:49 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> that's running software rather than dev in process, but you know what I mean
2025-12-11 19:11:46 +0100merijn(~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn
2025-12-11 19:11:05 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> I know php is a good example, you get a fresh state every request
2025-12-11 19:10:38 +0100 <EvanR> which is not what erlang is usually promoting
2025-12-11 19:10:23 +0100 <EvanR> well, transactional semantics are a good way to deal with that assumption
2025-12-11 19:09:21 +0100 <gentauro> haskellbridge: that's actually the foundation of Erlang right? We know we are gonna fail at some point, lets add that to the equation.
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2025-12-11 19:05:20 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> I guess my point is, as we work with computers and tools we are working with very complex state which will never be entirely bug free, sometimes it's more cost effective to try a state reset than to debug what's going wrong
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2025-12-11 19:03:55 +0100 <geekosaur> see `patchelf`
2025-12-11 19:03:47 +0100 <geekosaur> in particular, it varies on NixOS
2025-12-11 19:03:37 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> (not something I would do often, but sometimes the dumb hands-free test is worth doing)
2025-12-11 19:03:27 +0100 <geekosaur> leading to confusing error messages because `exec` has no way to pass back precisely what wasn't found