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| 2025-04-23 02:07:00 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-04-23 02:02:01 +0200 | jle` | (~jle`@2603:8001:3b00:11:3c94:fae0:e5ab:1351) jle` |
| 2025-04-23 02:01:56 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-04-23 01:59:57 +0200 | jle` | (~jle`@2603:8001:3b00:11:311f:eba9:dcc6:2b36) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-04-23 01:57:12 +0200 | JuanDaugherty | (~juan@user/JuanDaugherty) JuanDaugherty |
| 2025-04-23 01:55:54 +0200 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) peterbecich |
| 2025-04-23 01:51:45 +0200 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d108-173-18-100.abhsia.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-04-23 01:51:01 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-04-23 01:50:42 +0200 | __jmcantrell__ | (~weechat@user/jmcantrell) jmcantrell |
| 2025-04-23 01:48:50 +0200 | jmcantrell_ | jmcantrell |
| 2025-04-23 01:48:50 +0200 | jmcantrell | (~weechat@user/jmcantrell) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2025-04-23 01:47:32 +0200 | <jackdk> | The Flash era also showed that the barrier to people expressing themselves was a tooling limitation, not a limitation of the people |
| 2025-04-23 01:46:10 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-04-23 01:46:02 +0200 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2025-04-23 01:37:26 +0200 | <EvanR> | one way or another, people got the VR they were promised but it was via imperative programming |
| 2025-04-23 01:36:16 +0200 | <EvanR> | where we all found out maybe it's good some people can't express themselves xD |
| 2025-04-23 01:35:55 +0200 | <EvanR> | before the era of terrible flash animation |
| 2025-04-23 01:35:39 +0200 | <EvanR> | Interactive 3D and Multimedia Animation, it says "While interactive multimedia animation is a very compelling medium, few people are able to express themselves in it.". This was 1999 |
| 2025-04-23 01:35:39 +0200 | <EvanR> | in the abstract to An Embedded Modeling Language Approach to |
| 2025-04-23 01:35:06 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-04-23 01:32:38 +0200 | <int-e> | EvanR: Yes. I saw that Conal Elliott was involved so that was an unexpected connection. |
| 2025-04-23 01:30:22 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-04-23 01:29:35 +0200 | <int-e> | Ironically optimizing compilers won in the end, and people use GL from JS (and now Webassembly). |
| 2025-04-23 01:29:32 +0200 | <EvanR> | yes, though it is funny, that it is basically FRP |
| 2025-04-23 01:27:26 +0200 | XZDX | (~XZDX@user/XZDX) (Quit: KVIrc 5.2.6 Quasar http://www.kvirc.net/) |
| 2025-04-23 01:26:35 +0200 | <int-e> | As for the ActiveVRML thing... it really feels like MS doing MS things: Take an evolving open standard, jump on the train but do things in a obnoxiously incompatible way. |
| 2025-04-23 01:25:55 +0200 | <EvanR> | the future was there, in the past |
| 2025-04-23 01:25:36 +0200 | <EvanR> | technically ActiveWorlds still exists |
| 2025-04-23 01:25:36 +0200 | comonad | (~comonad@p200300d0274ba5000a84624e077d746c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 2025-04-23 01:24:49 +0200 | sprotte24 | (~sprotte24@134.245.44.88) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2025-04-23 01:24:39 +0200 | <int-e> | But what level of accuracy for predicting the future do you really expect from "the future is video" guy. |
| 2025-04-23 01:24:36 +0200 | <EvanR> | didn't have to make sense |
| 2025-04-23 01:24:28 +0200 | <EvanR> | he had to do anything at the time to distract from the company's "issues" |
| 2025-04-23 01:23:52 +0200 | <int-e> | EvanR: VRChat is a thing and even Second Life still exists... I don't know what Zuck was thinking his company could offer to supplant those. |
| 2025-04-23 01:23:16 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I think everyone's decamping for discord, sadly |
| 2025-04-23 01:23:06 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but yes, things have been quieter of late |
| 2025-04-23 01:22:35 +0200 | <geekosaur> | ircbrowse has them |
| 2025-04-23 01:21:59 +0200 | <EvanR> | hmm |
| 2025-04-23 01:21:58 +0200 | sm | needs chat stats |
| 2025-04-23 01:21:50 +0200 | EvanR | looks at haskellbridge |
| 2025-04-23 01:21:32 +0200 | <EvanR> | which claims that ActiveVRML "lives on" |
| 2025-04-23 01:21:05 +0200 | <sm> | also is it my imagination or is #haskell, IRC, matrix and the internet quieter than it used to be ? |
| 2025-04-23 01:20:27 +0200 | <EvanR> | a summary of other proposals at the time https://rodger.global-linguist.com/a-short-history-of-vrml-2-0/ |
| 2025-04-23 01:20:13 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2025-04-23 01:17:53 +0200 | jespada | (~jespada@r179-25-8-250.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) (Client Quit) |
| 2025-04-23 01:16:42 +0200 | <sm> | memo seems convincing |
| 2025-04-23 01:16:34 +0200 | jespada | (~jespada@r179-25-8-250.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) jespada |
| 2025-04-23 01:15:37 +0200 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) peterbecich |
| 2025-04-23 01:14:34 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-04-23 01:14:00 +0200 | <EvanR> | zuckerberg's failed metaverse |