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| 2025-04-22 04:13:23 +0200 | <EvanR> | I'd be dumb |
| 2025-04-22 04:13:18 +0200 | <EvanR> | if I said, you'll never guess my password. It's classic rock lyrics |
| 2025-04-22 04:13:04 +0200 | zmt00 | (~zmt00@user/zmt00) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-04-22 04:11:30 +0200 | zmt01 | (~zmt00@user/zmt00) zmt00 |
| 2025-04-22 04:10:42 +0200 | <monochrom> | Well, both start and length. Still, barely more than 16 bits. |
| 2025-04-22 04:08:11 +0200 | xff0x | (~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp) |
| 2025-04-22 04:06:18 +0200 | <EvanR> | 16 bits could index into 65k poems + a few bits for the starting position |
| 2025-04-22 04:03:26 +0200 | amadaluz- | (~amadaluzi@host86-129-150-130.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) (Quit: Hi, this is Paul Allen. I'm being called away to London for a few days. Meredith, I'll call you when I get back. Hasta la vista, baby.) |
| 2025-04-22 04:01:47 +0200 | <EvanR> | how many |
| 2025-04-22 04:01:43 +0200 | <EvanR> | how bits to designate which chinese poem + where to start |
| 2025-04-22 04:00:38 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2025-04-22 03:57:27 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> per line, so 4 line poem would translate to 128 bit, 8 line 256 bit, but you'd have to understand systems of character input that aren't based on phonetics |
| 2025-04-22 03:56:30 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> apparently there have been some papers on the entropy of crlassical chinese poetry, it's often memorable; estimates are like 30-35 bits |
| 2025-04-22 03:55:40 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-04-22 03:54:16 +0200 | notdabs | (~Owner@2600:1700:69cf:9000:887e:630e:324f:f9fb) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2025-04-22 03:44:51 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> the problem is, you'd need to learn cangjie or wubi or some other code-based character input method to actually be able to input such a password efficiently |
| 2025-04-22 03:44:29 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-04-22 03:43:58 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> 41 bits of entropy per line? |
| 2025-04-22 03:43:00 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> i'm still shocked the chinese haven't gone to diceware with randomly generated tang-dynasties poetry operating as passwords |
| 2025-04-22 03:39:54 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-04-22 03:38:53 +0200 | <monochrom> | There is actually a Japanese manga that has scene coming close to that. The password requires a pair of twins synchronously read alout a few verses from Ecclesiastes in the Bible. |
| 2025-04-22 03:37:58 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> i only have it set up so far that user accounts can be created, an activation e-mail can be sent, and that e-mail contains a link to a key which is checked against a table to turn the account to "activated" |
| 2025-04-22 03:37:21 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> by setting up login, i mean having a page and sql backend that can allow user accounts to log in |
| 2025-04-22 03:36:30 +0200 | <monochrom> | Unless you just mean "how do I make the server allow a book-length password" |
| 2025-04-22 03:35:58 +0200 | <monochrom> | I don't understand why setting up login requires a translation of a Chinese philosophy text. |
| 2025-04-22 03:31:47 +0200 | <EvanR> | how about a dose of "before covid" times https://ro-che.info/ccc/9 |
| 2025-04-22 03:30:44 +0200 | <EvanR> | or 莊子 |
| 2025-04-22 03:29:45 +0200 | <EvanR> | 庄子 |
| 2025-04-22 03:29:41 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> it's more about learning miso, in a low-risk project |
| 2025-04-22 03:27:48 +0200 | abrar | (~abrar@static-96-245-187-163.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2025-04-22 03:27:23 +0200 | abrar_ | (~abrar@static-96-245-187-163.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-04-22 03:26:57 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-04-22 03:26:35 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> Zhuangzi: Was I a butterfly dreaming that I am Zhuang Zhou, or am I Zhang Zhou dreaming that I am a butterfly? |
| 2025-04-22 03:26:14 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> was recently surprised the only free online repo is on ctext.org, using an ancient translation |
| 2025-04-22 03:25:59 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> some dead philosopher, fond of jokes, paradox, and contradiction |
| 2025-04-22 03:24:42 +0200 | harveypwca | (~harveypwc@2601:246:d080:f6e0:27d6:8cc7:eca9:c46c) |
| 2025-04-22 03:23:28 +0200 | <EvanR> | who |
| 2025-04-22 03:22:41 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-04-22 03:22:04 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> so, should i finish figuring out how to set up login on my server, or should I play with Miso to set up a Zhuangzi.io host, using the Burt Watson translation? |
| 2025-04-22 03:22:01 +0200 | amadaluzia_ | (~amadaluzi@2a00:23c7:ed8b:6701:a7b2:bedf:19fc:3cf) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2025-04-22 03:18:21 +0200 | amadaluz- | (~amadaluzi@host86-129-150-130.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) |
| 2025-04-22 03:18:05 +0200 | tremon | (~tremon@83.80.159.219) (Quit: getting boxed in) |
| 2025-04-22 03:14:51 +0200 | xff0x | (~xff0x@ai066236.d.east.v6connect.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-04-22 03:11:14 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-04-22 03:04:39 +0200 | otto_s | (~user@p5b044854.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 2025-04-22 03:04:07 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-04-22 03:02:34 +0200 | foul_owl | (~kerry@94.156.149.97) foul_owl |
| 2025-04-22 02:58:21 +0200 | tt12310978324354 | (~tt1231@syn-075-185-104-199.res.spectrum.com) (The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) |
| 2025-04-22 02:57:40 +0200 | <monochrom> | Yeah I believe we only know up to 6. |
| 2025-04-22 02:57:15 +0200 | <EvanR> | a busy beaver |