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| 2025-03-26 18:00:24 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@85-238-67-46.pool.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-03-26 18:00:07 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@85-238-67-46.pool.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-03-26 17:59:56 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Also comparing with vimdocs, because I find them nice |
| 2025-03-26 17:59:46 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> But yep, I was going to try something like that |
| 2025-03-26 17:59:31 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> If they don't support JS, how do I search in the HTML page then? |
| 2025-03-26 17:59:10 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> Elinks renders old HTML fairly nicely and even has some CSS support. Netsurf is way more capable but requires a GUI. Note that neither support JS nor the quadrillion modern extensions to HTML and CSS tho, but many pages look good on both browsers |
| 2025-03-26 17:57:50 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> Try writing some sample output manually on texinfo and HTML and view it on various tools in order to get a better perspective Morj |
| 2025-03-26 17:56:44 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> Roff/NRoff/TRoff is annoying lol, I tried writing homework on it some years ago and the only nice things it has are pic and eqn. Typst has versions of both and is way saner, pikchr is another pic replacement that's sane |
| 2025-03-26 17:52:21 +0100 | jespada | (~jespada@2800:a4:2263:8100:f927:2b9e:1735:aa6a) jespada |
| 2025-03-26 17:49:14 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@85-238-67-46.pool.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-03-26 17:48:59 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01d5-c415-995d-99e3-7810.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-03-26 17:39:04 +0100 | fp | (~Thunderbi@130.233.70.95) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-03-26 17:36:25 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Pages in html with search are sort of cheating since they use an additional index for those things |
| 2025-03-26 17:35:35 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Manpages (and markdown) don't have semantic sections. Like if I have a doc viewer that consumes files from a disc, it should have a search. If it has a search, I want to say "only search in functions" |
| 2025-03-26 17:34:47 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Ah |
| 2025-03-26 17:34:22 +0100 | <Athas> | I wasn't really serious about roff. It's the language underlying manpages (and in principle other things, but only the grayest of graybears use it for anything else I think). |
| 2025-03-26 17:33:43 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | >_< |
| 2025-03-26 17:33:43 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> > the entire OS is running in a browser |
| 2025-03-26 17:33:26 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Googling it rn |
| 2025-03-26 17:32:48 +0100 | <Athas> | That can be rendered in a console, and it is certainly simple. |
| 2025-03-26 17:32:34 +0100 | <Athas> | What about roff? |
| 2025-03-26 17:32:31 +0100 | <EvanR> | don't tell Morj that in the near future, the entire OS is running in a browser |
| 2025-03-26 17:30:57 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> That's why I asked for alternatives! |
| 2025-03-26 17:30:52 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | Ha-ha-ha |
| 2025-03-26 17:30:52 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> > I remember being disappointed by it |
| 2025-03-26 17:30:41 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | A side bonus to a side bonus: not having to alt-tab to a browser gives me less distractions |
| 2025-03-26 17:30:41 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> > a special firefox window |
| 2025-03-26 17:30:31 +0100 | <Athas> | I haven't used it for almost 20 years, but I remember being disappointed by it. |
| 2025-03-26 17:30:18 +0100 | <Athas> | I mean, knock yourself out, but Texinfo is not a particularly *nice* format. Not even compared to HTML. |
| 2025-03-26 17:29:47 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | You are 100% right, but my sense of beauty tells me that the whole html/web machinery is unnecessary here |
| 2025-03-26 17:29:47 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> > I am not convinced that elinks |
| 2025-03-26 17:29:14 +0100 | chexum | (~quassel@gateway/tor-sasl/chexum) chexum |
| 2025-03-26 17:28:56 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Also, a side bonus: currently I have a special firefox window where the only tabs are hackage docs; why not move those to a special doc viewing app? |
| 2025-03-26 17:28:36 +0100 | <Athas> | I am not convinced that elinks (or similar) showing well-written HTML is much less readable in a console than Texinfo. |
| 2025-03-26 17:27:47 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> That's being ambitious that someone other than me would want to create those viewers |
| 2025-03-26 17:27:27 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> If it's texinfo, it's easier for people to view it in console or other alternate viewers |
| 2025-03-26 17:27:13 +0100 | <Athas> | The original benefit of Texinfo was that it could be rendered in multiple ways, but it seems you do not need that. And Texinfo has some weird warts to enable that. |
| 2025-03-26 17:27:06 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> I'm biased against html (= |
| 2025-03-26 17:27:00 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> True |
| 2025-03-26 17:26:47 +0100 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-03-26 17:26:45 +0100 | <Athas> | Morj: I think the Texinfo part of your design is unnecessary. You might as well just generate simple HTML. |
| 2025-03-26 17:26:29 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> The Guile docs are all on texinfo, GNU provides a web view. I think those are not autogenerated tho |
| 2025-03-26 17:26:27 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> I'm currently inspired by having to find a constant in rust docs, and then ctrl-f-ing it on a bullshit-generated C documentation page |
| 2025-03-26 17:26:12 +0100 | bitdex | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) bitdex |
| 2025-03-26 17:25:47 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | ... long message truncated: https://kf8nh.com/_heisenbridge/media/kf8nh.com/TiTiKNqgsHwiSqLVUEQwdgNW/3LKPRGcYsZ0 (5 lines) |
| 2025-03-26 17:25:47 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Yeah, so here's my current vision: |
| 2025-03-26 17:25:09 +0100 | <Athas> | Right, but the nice thing about Haddock is that it understands Haskell and will insert most links for you. |
| 2025-03-26 17:24:45 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> And most wiki tools |
| 2025-03-26 17:24:28 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> That's also the case with HTML tho |
| 2025-03-26 17:23:15 +0100 | <Athas> | Morj: yes, but you have to put in the links explicitly. |