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2026-02-25 14:08:20 +0100 <merijn> s/hiredman/chromoblob
2026-02-25 14:08:09 +0100 <merijn> hiredman: Then just use Text everywhere :P
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2026-02-25 13:56:18 +0100uli-fem(~uli-fem@118.210.1.123) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2026-02-25 13:55:05 +0100 <__monty__> That's the thing, it'd be slower for most of the code written to use String.
2026-02-25 13:54:15 +0100 <chromoblob> speed and memory is "nicer" to me than "niceness"
2026-02-25 13:53:27 +0100 <__monty__> So that leaves having a "buffer" instead of a list. And that just doesn't play as nice with functional idioms.
2026-02-25 13:52:37 +0100 <__monty__> chromoblob: Char is analogous to UTF-32 already, no?
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2026-02-25 13:44:57 +0100 <chromoblob> ;)
2026-02-25 13:44:19 +0100 <merijn> chromoblob: I mean, feel free to try it :>
2026-02-25 13:44:00 +0100poscat(~poscat@user/poscat) poscat
2026-02-25 13:43:03 +0100 <chromoblob> i mean, there are almost always very easy to decide optimizations
2026-02-25 13:42:55 +0100tremon(~tremon@83.80.159.219) tremon
2026-02-25 13:42:42 +0100 <merijn> That's the reason why Haskell has like 5-8 string types (depending how you count :p)
2026-02-25 13:42:11 +0100 <merijn> chromoblob: Basically automatically deciding optimal layout is hard, if not impossible
2026-02-25 13:42:08 +0100 <chromoblob> well, the source code would be portable...
2026-02-25 13:42:02 +0100machinedgod(~machinedg@d172-219-48-230.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod
2026-02-25 13:41:47 +0100 <merijn> Lazy Text
2026-02-25 13:41:45 +0100 <merijn> Rather
2026-02-25 13:41:41 +0100 <merijn> chromoblob: That's just Text?
2026-02-25 13:40:48 +0100 <chromoblob> could use UTF-32 or "UTF-24"
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2026-02-25 13:40:17 +0100 <chromoblob> complicates *
2026-02-25 13:40:14 +0100Moyst(~moyst@user/moyst) Moyst
2026-02-25 13:40:11 +0100 <chromoblob> yeah, Unicode complicated
2026-02-25 13:39:48 +0100 <chromoblob> well, no need to perfect things, but it'd be cool if Strings were stored as a UTF-8 buffer + a thunk for the rest of string
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2026-02-25 13:36:52 +0100 <merijn> String literals are compiled to dense byte blobs that get lazily converted into [Char]
2026-02-25 13:36:38 +0100 <merijn> chromoblob: That said, string literals aren't actually even [Char] in compiled code
2026-02-25 13:36:26 +0100 <merijn> chromoblob: Because "optimal" is a hard thing to define :p
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