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2025-03-21 19:31:56 +0100Clintgolfclaps.
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2025-03-21 19:30:13 +0100 <EvanR> This had made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
2025-03-21 19:30:13 +0100 <EvanR> In the beginning the Universe was created.
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2025-03-21 19:22:01 +0100 <dminuoso> More importantly, why did they even name them computers and did they have the authority to do so?
2025-03-21 19:20:59 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Bowuigi> Who's Liron and why did they create computers?
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2025-03-21 19:03:14 +0100 <EvanR> seems like the kind of thing the wiki infrastructure would flag automatically
2025-03-21 19:02:06 +0100euleritian(~euleritia@95.90.214.149)
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2025-03-21 19:01:20 +0100 <xeno11> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Haskell
2025-03-21 19:00:34 +0100 <xeno11> LIRON WAS THE CREATOR OF COMPUTERS" and other changes might have been made.
2025-03-21 19:00:33 +0100 <xeno11> To anyone that can help/edit wiki... haskell wikibook main page was edited. It seems "Haskell is pure" was changed to "JEWS ARE THE BEST
2025-03-21 19:00:28 +0100vanishingideal(~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) vanishingideal
2025-03-21 18:59:18 +0100Unicorn_Princess(~Unicorn_P@user/Unicorn-Princess/x-3540542) Unicorn_Princess
2025-03-21 18:58:43 +0100 <sim590> :)
2025-03-21 18:58:33 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Bowuigi> IEEE-754 floats are so weird
2025-03-21 18:58:31 +0100 <EvanR> failed
2025-03-21 18:57:07 +0100 <sim590> test
2025-03-21 18:56:54 +0100xeno11(~xeno11@c-69-140-170-168.hsd1.de.comcast.net)
2025-03-21 18:56:29 +0100 <EvanR> except for NaN
2025-03-21 18:56:23 +0100 <sim590> foo
2025-03-21 18:56:10 +0100 <EvanR> though in these cases indeed x = x, which is what got me started on this
2025-03-21 18:55:24 +0100 <EvanR> another example is treating zero and minus zero differently in floats. Another example is implementing rationals with two numbers, and mapping 1/2 and 2/4 to false and true respectively (assuming false and true are not equal)
2025-03-21 18:53:53 +0100euleritian(~euleritia@ip5f5ad695.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)
2025-03-21 18:53:37 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Bowuigi> Congruence is derivable in various type theories as well, even without identity types
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2025-03-21 18:52:34 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Bowuigi> Even then, it holds for PERs IIRC
2025-03-21 18:52:23 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Bowuigi> It's only wrong from an undecidability/non-termination standpoint
2025-03-21 18:48:38 +0100 <EvanR> (though now you might argue the f is not really a function after all, since it's observing a difference, which is the same point as above)
2025-03-21 18:47:57 +0100 <EvanR> e.g. in a possible implementation of computable reals, you could have rational real which terminates and is easy to compute with, and another real which converges to the same rational, and causes the f to explode when applied to it
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2025-03-21 18:46:09 +0100 <EvanR> even though it's wrong!
2025-03-21 18:45:54 +0100euleritian(~euleritia@dynamic-176-000-195-182.176.0.pool.telefonica.de)
2025-03-21 18:45:53 +0100 <EvanR> and is otherwise a pretty common rule to rely on
2025-03-21 18:44:22 +0100 <EvanR> derived from the usual definition of functions in set theory