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2025-03-04 01:59:07 +0100misterfish(~misterfis@84.53.85.146) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2025-03-04 01:58:46 +0100 <monochrom> Ever heard of mutilple dispatch? Everything is not single dispatch. Only Common Lisp Object System does justice in this regard. C++ comes close, acknowledging that for binary operators such as (+), both a.add(b) and b.add(a) are wrong, you are supposed to have "friend-of-C add(C a, C b)".
2025-03-04 01:56:58 +0100 <monochrom> Up to a first-order approximation, OOP is more well-organized than FP, yes. But there is a blindspot in OOP advocacy based on that.
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2025-03-04 01:11:55 +0100LainExperiments(~LainExper@user/LainExperiments) LainExperiments
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2025-03-04 01:01:53 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> dumb jokes: Maybe is a comonad in the pseudo-category Hask; just error "Maybe is a comonad in the pseudo-category Hask" on Nothing.
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2025-03-04 00:44:21 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUMPS
2025-03-04 00:43:55 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> /s/wins ahead/comes out ahead/
2025-03-04 00:43:51 +0100 <geekosaur> you want terse? mumps
2025-03-04 00:43:38 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> although obv apl wins ahead, and it's all classical chinese to me (modern Chinese has tons of digraphs, classical Chinese, the older you get, the more single character words) :)
2025-03-04 00:42:52 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> begin end
2025-03-04 00:42:35 +0100 <c_wraith> I think of like apl or julia.
2025-03-04 00:42:24 +0100 <c_wraith> python is not what I think of when I think of a terse language.
2025-03-04 00:40:04 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> you know me as the guy (Inst) who likes to complain about minor syntax issues with Haskell, when Haskell is tied with Python for terseness (monad accounting cancels out FP terseness)
2025-03-04 00:39:44 +0100ystael(~ystael@user/ystael) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2025-03-04 00:39:10 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> also, a very nice thing about playing with Rust is that it's so freaking verbose
2025-03-04 00:38:28 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> for instance, someone told me that Haskellers just tend to define datatypes anywhere instead of using specialized modules
2025-03-04 00:38:00 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> i guess none of what i'm saying is new; people with orders of magnitude more experience than me have compared OOP vs FP approaches; OOP has very nice things about how it organizes code (I've always found FP libs to be disorganized)
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2025-03-04 00:35:25 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> jackdk: I'm just doing a simple tetris game in Rust, turned out to have taken much longer until I went to datatypes -> functions (in this case methods) approach
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