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2026-02-04 12:17:42 +0100 <mesaoptimizer> what is the current recommended setup for emacs with haskell? if you have a robust configuration, please link it to me.
2026-02-04 12:16:16 +0100 <[exa]> there was also quite a bit of research on related things back in 90s, maybe some stuff moved but my main takeaway was that it's not practical
2026-02-04 12:14:56 +0100 <[exa]> gentauro: I was trying to do similar some 10 years ago, the outcome is that converting any existing functional programming system to this behavior is either impossible or basically you end up with something like the compiled schemes or Rust
2026-02-04 12:13:25 +0100gentauroanyway, back to "old-school" coding
2026-02-04 12:12:55 +0100vanishingideal(~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2026-02-04 12:12:44 +0100 <gentauro> like I say, they are so many "complex and hard" topics that I really would like this to succeed, just to see the outcome :o
2026-02-04 12:11:40 +0100 <gentauro> [exa]: but both Haskell and OCaml have garbage collectors. They seem to go the `C/C++/Rust` way -> https://speakez.tech/blog/gaining-closure/
2026-02-04 12:08:34 +0100 <[exa]> (or ocaml, depending on which direction you take)
2026-02-04 12:06:26 +0100 <[exa]> doesn't it kinda become haskell by then?
2026-02-04 11:59:26 +0100 <gentauro> … and Oracle :)
2026-02-04 11:55:14 +0100 <gentauro> [exa]: could be. However, I would love to see F# removing all dependencies to MS, a bit like Java did with the openJDK
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2026-02-04 11:25:29 +0100 <[exa]> gentauro: given the amount of "complete" code they have on githubs I'd say this might be a case for poc||gtfo
2026-02-04 11:22:05 +0100 <gentauro> I mean, all the things that he mentions are "extremely hard" to do on its own.
2026-02-04 11:21:32 +0100 <gentauro> [exa]: if you search for "// F* specification for verified memory operation" it seems that he also will add somekind of `liquid F#/F*` support? https://speakez.tech/blog/doubling-down/
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