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| 2025-03-01 00:12:32 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> i mean it can be done on a function level |
| 2025-03-01 00:11:49 +0100 | takuan | (~takuan@d8D86B601.access.telenet.be) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 00:10:06 +0100 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 00:08:33 +0100 | michalz | (~michalz@185.246.207.222) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-03-01 00:07:40 +0100 | <c_wraith> | obelisk's trick is to change the libraries grabbed by a particular name depending on what it's targeting |
| 2025-03-01 00:07:08 +0100 | <c_wraith> | It doesn't *really* work that way, thanks to needing to compile eagerly |
| 2025-03-01 00:06:29 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> erm, don't have to evaluate the backend server actions |
| 2025-03-01 00:06:18 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> whereas you're looking at macros and tokens (which require ADTs to be remotely reasonable) in other languages |
| 2025-03-01 00:05:43 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> whereas in Haskell, due to lazy evaluation and a concept of action, you don't have to evaluate the datatype parts, and this is completely native and idiomatic to haskell (well, not the object aspect) |
| 2025-03-01 00:05:28 +0100 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) alfiee |
| 2025-03-01 00:05:07 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> they have to be fully evaluated, or rendered as tokens |
| 2025-03-01 00:04:50 +0100 | <c_wraith> | But I think it's not really maintained anymore |
| 2025-03-01 00:04:46 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> because in a strict language, if you have the server components of objects |
| 2025-03-01 00:04:40 +0100 | <c_wraith> | like https://github.com/obsidiansystems/obelisk is along those lines |
| 2025-03-01 00:04:16 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> due to lazy evaluation |
| 2025-03-01 00:04:10 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> honestly this might be something haskell is good for |
| 2025-03-01 00:03:59 +0100 | <c_wraith> | there are attempts in that direction, but they're all still pretty awkward to use. |
| 2025-03-01 00:02:48 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> as in, you define your program in objects / datatypes, then you use different compile functions to render the objects / datatypes to backend, frontend (multiplatform)? |
| 2025-03-01 00:02:18 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> hope this is not too obnoxious, but do single-library webapp applications exist? |
| 2025-03-01 00:01:09 +0100 | misterfish | (~misterfis@84.53.85.146) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-02-28 23:57:49 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) peterbecich |
| 2025-02-28 23:54:54 +0100 | messewix | (~jmc@user/messewix) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-02-28 23:52:38 +0100 | tomboy64 | (~tomboy64@user/tomboy64) tomboy64 |
| 2025-02-28 23:50:48 +0100 | <c_wraith> | Ok, found it. false alarm. |
| 2025-02-28 23:49:40 +0100 | Smiles | (uid551636@id-551636.lymington.irccloud.com) Smiles |
| 2025-02-28 23:49:21 +0100 | azenna | (~azenna@76.78.190.77) (Client Quit) |
| 2025-02-28 23:49:06 +0100 | azenna | (~azenna@76.78.190.77) |
| 2025-02-28 23:48:55 +0100 | <c_wraith> | Some other dependency is at fault |
| 2025-02-28 23:48:50 +0100 | <c_wraith> | ah, it's not. |
| 2025-02-28 23:48:30 +0100 | <c_wraith> | also... Diagrams hasn't been updated to build on current GHC since 9.0 came out? Is that really the case? |
| 2025-02-28 23:47:34 +0100 | tomboy64 | (~tomboy64@user/tomboy64) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-02-28 23:45:28 +0100 | k_hachig_ | (~k_hachig@2605:b100:12d:f432:30da:d313:60c:c771) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-02-28 23:39:18 +0100 | Unicorn_Princess | (~Unicorn_P@user/Unicorn-Princess/x-3540542) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2025-02-28 23:39:05 +0100 | petrichor | (~znc-user@user/petrichor) petrichor |
| 2025-02-28 23:36:06 +0100 | k_hachig_ | (~k_hachig@2605:b100:12d:f432:30da:d313:60c:c771) k_hachig |
| 2025-02-28 23:36:04 +0100 | petrichor | (~znc-user@user/petrichor) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-02-28 23:35:23 +0100 | fp | (~Thunderbi@87-92-155-24.rev.dnainternet.fi) fp |
| 2025-02-28 23:34:45 +0100 | k_hachig_ | (~k_hachig@138-51-74-124-lsn-2.nat.utoronto.ca) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2025-02-28 23:32:47 +0100 | <Leary> | c_wraith: Good question; I had much the same one recently. I investigated all the graphics libraries I could find but there was no answer among them, so I'm currently in the process of rolling my own with cairo and sdl2. My 'cairo-declarative' wrapper is pretty much done, but the rest is very much a WIP. Still, I'll see about putting them on github soon and send you links when I do. |
| 2025-02-28 23:23:39 +0100 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-02-28 23:21:14 +0100 | synchromesh | (~john@2406:5a00:24cf:bb00:bc6d:a873:1cc2:c331) synchromesh |
| 2025-02-28 23:20:20 +0100 | synchromesh | (~john@2406:5a00:24cf:bb00:2c32:43e6:1cbf:396a) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-02-28 23:19:04 +0100 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) alfiee |
| 2025-02-28 23:16:23 +0100 | <c_wraith> | huh. Is there something in the space of "gloss, but with enough features to be useful"? Like, Gloss would be good enough for me if I could just query the current bounds of a Picture, but it doesn't allow even that much |
| 2025-02-28 23:14:16 +0100 | bilegeek | (~bilegeek@2600:1008:b083:f9b:4ea6:8944:ad90:a41f) bilegeek |
| 2025-02-28 23:09:50 +0100 | __jmcantrell__ | (~weechat@user/jmcantrell) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-02-28 23:09:24 +0100 | k_hachig_ | (~k_hachig@138-51-74-124-lsn-2.nat.utoronto.ca) k_hachig |
| 2025-02-28 23:08:42 +0100 | Lord_of_Life | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life |
| 2025-02-28 23:07:48 +0100 | k_hachig_ | (~k_hachig@138-51-74-124-lsn-2.nat.utoronto.ca) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2025-02-28 23:07:46 +0100 | target_i | (~target_i@user/target-i/x-6023099) (Quit: leaving) |