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2025-01-30 20:57:51 +0100 <nitrix> Normal debugging yes, type debugging no. The more you know, the more tempted you are to use sophisticated types.
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2025-01-30 20:54:10 +0100 <euouae> I'm sure it gets better with practice
2025-01-30 20:54:05 +0100 <euouae> right unfortunately there's normal debugging and type debugging when you write haskell
2025-01-30 20:53:40 +0100 <nitrix> Type inference is the term you're looking for.
2025-01-30 20:53:38 +0100 <euouae> in terms of ... I'm lacking the terms, but whatever the polymorphism and other derivations are
2025-01-30 20:53:23 +0100 <euouae> where I'm trying to understand what the type checker is "thinking"
2025-01-30 20:53:09 +0100 <euouae> yup, can't use it in the middle of stuff though
2025-01-30 20:52:55 +0100 <tomsmeding> euouae: ':t' shows the type of an expression
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2025-01-30 20:52:43 +0100 <yahb2> "hi" :: String
2025-01-30 20:52:43 +0100 <tomsmeding> % :t "hi"
2025-01-30 20:52:37 +0100 <nitrix> I guess the Num a => a on the other lines gets truncated in the response.
2025-01-30 20:52:33 +0100 <euouae> not just lsp stuff in files
2025-01-30 20:52:28 +0100 <euouae> yeah because I wanted something for the REPL too
2025-01-30 20:52:22 +0100 <euouae> Ah nice tha'ts a cool trick thank you
2025-01-30 20:52:07 +0100 <lambdabot> • In the second argument of ‘(++)’, namely ‘_’
2025-01-30 20:52:07 +0100 <lambdabot> • Found hole: _ :: [Char]
2025-01-30 20:52:07 +0100 <lambdabot> error:
2025-01-30 20:52:03 +0100 <tomsmeding> > "hi" ++ _
2025-01-30 20:51:56 +0100 <lambdabot> Where: ‘a’ is a rigid type variable bound by
2025-01-30 20:51:56 +0100 <lambdabot> • Found hole: _ :: a
2025-01-30 20:51:56 +0100 <lambdabot> error:
2025-01-30 20:51:51 +0100 <nitrix> > 1 + _
2025-01-30 20:51:41 +0100 <euouae> I'll come to that later at some point. Printf debugging is not the best but it is what it is
2025-01-30 20:51:17 +0100zmt00(~zmt00@user/zmt00) zmt00
2025-01-30 20:50:59 +0100 <tomsmeding> for runtime debugging, the most reliable go-to is still "printf debugging" with Debug.Trace
2025-01-30 20:50:55 +0100 <nitrix> Most LSP integrations will tell you that. You can also put a type hole with _ and see what the compiler thinks.
2025-01-30 20:50:33 +0100 <tomsmeding> oh for sure, the language server supports type queries
2025-01-30 20:50:19 +0100 <euouae> that'd be type debugging
2025-01-30 20:50:17 +0100 <euouae> for example is there a way to query what the type checker thinks of an expression in the middle of a big expression?