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| 2026-04-02 16:12:54 +0200 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d172-219-48-230.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod |
| 2026-04-02 16:11:51 +0200 | sim590 | (~simon@2001:18c0:a82:2400::9fb) |
| 2026-04-02 16:11:31 +0200 | <Vq> | mesaoptimizer: haskell-mode is a bit terrible, yeah. But I'm used to it now so it's not too bad. |
| 2026-04-02 16:10:13 +0200 | <mesaoptimizer> | gentauro: emacs' `haskell-mode` for example, seems terrible |
| 2026-04-02 16:09:44 +0200 | <int-e> | Huh I didn't expectt hat. But it may well explain the difference. |
| 2026-04-02 16:08:30 +0200 | <mesaoptimizer> | int-e: it returns an empty string for me |
| 2026-04-02 16:08:11 +0200 | mistivia | (~mistivia@user/mistivia) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-04-02 16:06:32 +0200 | <mesaoptimizer> | language is not just its syntax and semantics |
| 2026-04-02 16:06:30 +0200 | <mesaoptimizer> | gentauro: I think it makes sense to use text over String as a default, and records as properties instead of functions seems.... I'm unsure about that one. I agree that tooling is really important and I think you underestimate this. I dislike haskell, but I dislike it less than python. Even so, the tooling is a lovely experience in Python and Rust, and the feeling of using the tooling matters. A |
| 2026-04-02 16:06:18 +0200 | <int-e> | (and `gmp` comes from extra-libraries in ghc-bignum) |
| 2026-04-02 16:04:30 +0200 | Fijxu | (~Fijxu@user/fijxu) fijxu |
| 2026-04-02 16:04:26 +0200 | <int-e> | For me it's extra-libraries: c m |
| 2026-04-02 16:04:11 +0200 | <int-e> | mesaoptimizer: actually, if you do `ghc-pkg field ghc-prim extra-libraries`, what does that say? |
| 2026-04-02 16:04:05 +0200 | Rembane | (~Rembane@user/Rembane) Rembane |
| 2026-04-02 16:03:20 +0200 | <mesaoptimizer> | gentauro: lol at AI sponsored |
| 2026-04-02 16:02:53 +0200 | Rembane | (~Rembane@user/Rembane) (Quit: WeeChat 4.1.1) |
| 2026-04-02 16:02:42 +0200 | Fijxu_ | (~Fijxu@user/fijxu) (Quit: XD!!) |
| 2026-04-02 16:01:57 +0200 | <mesaoptimizer> | int-e: https://paste.sh/X_M1kjxN#L5GyW1Hni0xwD514hGzF53dh here, I tried it and it still worked. guess it likely does depend on the platform |
| 2026-04-02 16:01:26 +0200 | <int-e> | (I guess it's conceivable that the logic depends on the platform; I'm on linux) |
| 2026-04-02 16:01:19 +0200 | <gentauro> | xD |
| 2026-04-02 16:01:16 +0200 | <gentauro> | people who doesn't like current Haskell should spawn a new lang just like they did with Elm -> https://gren-lang.org/ |
| 2026-04-02 16:00:49 +0200 | <int-e> | mesaoptimizer: but sorry for writing "bogus" instead of the actual value I said |
| 2026-04-02 16:00:03 +0200 | <int-e> | (because adding . there is a bit silly) |
| 2026-04-02 15:59:50 +0200 | <int-e> | mesaoptimizer: presumably the actual one was derived from $HOME |
| 2026-04-02 15:59:50 +0200 | <gentauro> | maerwald, that parts is 100% AI-sponsored by none other than -> https://openai.com/index/openai-to-acquire-astral/ |
| 2026-04-02 15:59:40 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> lots of indian restaurants serve french fries though |
| 2026-04-02 15:59:26 +0200 | <int-e> | mesaoptimizer: you never tired LIBRARY_PATH=. |
| 2026-04-02 15:59:15 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> nuff said |
| 2026-04-02 15:59:11 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> "uv" as an example of good tooling |
| 2026-04-02 15:59:05 +0200 | <mesaoptimizer> | oh conf too |
| 2026-04-02 15:59:03 +0200 | <gentauro> | deosn't really make sense |
| 2026-04-02 15:58:56 +0200 | <gentauro> | I mean, it's like yeah, I go to this Indian restuarant and I like american burgers and french fries |
| 2026-04-02 15:58:43 +0200 | <mesaoptimizer> | int-e: https://paste.sh/xDNURC0X#wn-fe9Cxw6DOxYUzEp4Qzxs2 well I am confused |
| 2026-04-02 15:58:19 +0200 | <int-e> | "people who participate in surveys also like..." |
| 2026-04-02 15:57:52 +0200 | <gentauro> | (text over string, like stric vs lazy), record with properties instead of functions (go use F# or OCaml), performance (go use Rust), lazyness (go use Rust), Dependant Haskell (go use Idris), effects systems (go use OCaml), (:: vs :, go use F# or OCaml) … |
| 2026-04-02 15:57:06 +0200 | Alex_test_ | (~al_test@94.233.240.132) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2026-04-02 15:56:39 +0200 | sord937 | (~sord937@gateway/tor-sasl/sord937) sord937 |
| 2026-04-02 15:56:20 +0200 | sord937 | (~sord937@gateway/tor-sasl/sord937) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-04-02 15:55:27 +0200 | <gentauro> | mesaoptimizer: every single topic mentioned in the blog is contrary to what Haskell is about |
| 2026-04-02 15:54:00 +0200 | <int-e> | mesaoptimizer: ^ |
| 2026-04-02 15:53:54 +0200 | <int-e> | I can, after setting a bogus LIBRARY_PATH. also works with `c` or `gmp` instead of `m` |
| 2026-04-02 15:52:24 +0200 | Alex_test_ | (~al_test@94.233.240.132) |
| 2026-04-02 15:52:17 +0200 | alter2000 | (~alter2000@user/alter2000) alter2000 |
| 2026-04-02 15:52:11 +0200 | <mesaoptimizer> | gentauro: can you elaborate |
| 2026-04-02 15:51:46 +0200 | <gentauro> | mesaoptimizer: so people don't want to code in Haskell? Huh |
| 2026-04-02 15:50:55 +0200 | bitdex | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) bitdex |
| 2026-04-02 15:50:35 +0200 | jmcantrell_ | (~weechat@user/jmcantrell) jmcantrell |
| 2026-04-02 15:48:34 +0200 | AlexZenon_2 | (~alzenon@94.233.240.132) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2026-04-02 15:48:29 +0200 | sord937 | (~sord937@gateway/tor-sasl/sord937) sord937 |
| 2026-04-02 15:47:53 +0200 | tusko | (~uwu@user/tusko) tusko |