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2025-01-24 15:41:04 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Can you make GHC print out quantifiers explicitly with :t ? |
2025-01-24 15:38:55 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Leary: I just wanted to use GADTSyntax to avoid some confusion. |
2025-01-24 15:38:36 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Leary: Sure or that. |
2025-01-24 15:38:19 +0100 | <Leary> | dminuoso: That should be `(exists a. a)`; you wouldn't even need GADTSyntax to write it. |
2025-01-24 15:37:47 +0100 | <yahb2> | Foo :: a -> Foo |
2025-01-24 15:37:47 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :t Foo |
2025-01-24 15:37:45 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
2025-01-24 15:37:45 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % data Foo = forall a. Foo a |
2025-01-24 15:37:36 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
2025-01-24 15:37:36 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :set -XExistentialQuantification |
2025-01-24 15:37:22 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Instead it uses a very strange notation where you put the `forall a` into a strange spot, there by impying that. |
2025-01-24 15:36:53 +0100 | <dminuoso> | `data Foo where Foo :: exists a. a -> Foo` |
2025-01-24 15:36:36 +0100 | <dminuoso> | So the language extension *is* called ExistentialQuantification, and if it had been faithful, it would have allowed to write: |
2025-01-24 15:36:16 +0100 | <dminuoso> | That one is a bit funny. |
2025-01-24 15:36:13 +0100 | <kuribas> | Foo is not a function type. |
2025-01-24 15:35:59 +0100 | <kuribas> | a is existential in Foo. |
2025-01-24 15:35:47 +0100 | <kuribas> | "data Foo = forall a. Foo a" is an existential type. |
2025-01-24 15:33:27 +0100 | <dminuoso> | s/too is an /too has an/ |
2025-01-24 15:32:12 +0100 | <dminuoso> | If an existential type is any quantified type where an `∃a. ...` could appear in, then `id` too is an existential type because we could encode it in terms of an existential quantifier. |
2025-01-24 15:31:20 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Not quite sure whether we can give a clean and accurate definition of what "an existential type" is exactly. |
2025-01-24 15:30:55 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Except that you encode it via the above isomorphism. |
2025-01-24 15:30:47 +0100 | <dminuoso> | We do not have existential quantification. |
2025-01-24 15:30:43 +0100 | <dminuoso> | kuribas: Let me rephrase: |
2025-01-24 15:30:33 +0100 | <kuribas> | We do have existential types. |
2025-01-24 15:27:49 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Yes we do not have `∃x.` .. but then again we do not really have existential codes (except for those encoded via universal quantification) |
2025-01-24 15:27:38 +0100 | <merijn> | Actually ∀ totally is valid haskell with -XUnicodeSyntax :p |
2025-01-24 15:27:20 +0100 | <dminuoso> | kuribas: Half of it is. |
2025-01-24 15:26:56 +0100 | <kuribas> | dminuoso: that's not valid haskell syntax |
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2025-01-24 15:22:09 +0100 | <dminuoso> | ncf: Oh, I indeed mixed this one up. |
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2025-01-24 14:20:08 +0100 | <ncf> | yes |
2025-01-24 14:19:11 +0100 | <kuribas> | well (forall a. Num a => a) |
2025-01-24 14:18:51 +0100 | <ncf> | no |