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2025-01-23 19:28:58 +0100 <homo> s/work yacc/work with yacc/
2025-01-23 19:28:39 +0100 <homo> a cherry on top I need to figure out how to work yacc and extend hugs to support pattern guards so that there is no need for long bootstrap chain in the future
2025-01-23 19:27:24 +0100 <homo> sm well, bootstrap with hugs is complete, so now it's possible for me to focus on porting, all I need to do is simply rewrite everything that expects posix environment into using plan9 environment, both virtual machine and provided haskell source have posix-specific code (which means generated/mhs.c is not portable despite being for virtual machine)
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2025-01-23 19:16:50 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> homo: sounds like you want to bring microhs to plan 9 ? what's the current problem ?
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2025-01-23 18:57:10 +0100 <homo> also if someone seriously considers trying to build ghc with microhs, most likely it will take 1000 times longer to compile, so even if 5 hours turn into 1000 hours, that is almost 42 days waiting for compilation to finish, and you will have to start again if something fails and you make changes to ghc
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2025-01-23 18:50:44 +0100 <homo> keeping my goal to bring haskell to plan9 in mind: 1. ghc on plan9 wouldn't even be able to compile and run 99% of packages on stackage because plan9 is neither posix nor windows compatible, 2. I want to rip off ffi completely and convert every haskell code that I use into calling syscalls provided by kernel, 3. ghc is too bloated for my laptop, compilation process will simply destroy it, 4. microhs being small allows me to easily modify it
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2025-01-23 18:46:14 +0100 <__monty__> homo: I think GHC keeps being brought up because most people see non-GHC Haskell as little more than a toy.
2025-01-23 18:44:37 +0100 <homo> Bowuigi geekosaur generated code is considered binary, so no, that is not bootstrap from source, also I already stated earlier I have no interest touching ghc just like ghc developers have no interest in bootstrappability, ghc is haskell, but haskell is not ghc
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2025-01-23 18:38:58 +0100 <geekosaur> (and tbh I think we're running out of folks who know how it works)
2025-01-23 18:38:54 +0100j1n37(~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37
2025-01-23 18:38:46 +0100 <geekosaur> sadly I don't think the bootstrapping process is described anywhere, you would have to ask in #GHC:matrix.org