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2025-01-18 00:23:13 +0100 <monochrom> haha, I haven't thought of that.
2025-01-18 00:22:57 +0100 <c_wraith> does that also apply to pointfree debates?
2025-01-18 00:21:50 +0100 <lambdabot> monochrom says: All pointless debates can be settled by going polymorphic.
2025-01-18 00:21:50 +0100 <monochrom> @quote monochrom polymorphic
2025-01-18 00:21:41 +0100 <monochrom> Oh and...
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2025-01-18 00:19:24 +0100 <monochrom> program : supporting libs :: true statement :: the proof system that proved it
2025-01-18 00:18:48 +0100 <monochrom> And just around the same time in #haskell-offtopic we were talking about how programs come ship with their own C++ libs to avoid DLL hell.
2025-01-18 00:17:58 +0100 <monochrom> You may need more than spelling out a rigorous statement. You may end up also needing to spell out exactly which proof system you chose. Like I said, choosing a different one leads to the opposite result.
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2025-01-18 00:13:57 +0100 <monochrom> And whatever you do in model theory, you must respect that Herbrand models are here to stay, even if it may be an annoying silly oddball.
2025-01-18 00:13:42 +0100 <haskellbridge> <thirdofmay18081814goya> i'll be back with a more rigorous statement
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2025-01-18 00:12:16 +0100 <monochrom> ... and I guess that's one way to see why there are countable models for ZFC!
2025-01-18 00:11:52 +0100 <monochrom> So for example if you argue that programs are countable, you are just reminding us that the Herbrand model is countable.
2025-01-18 00:11:08 +0100 <monochrom> It is fairly trivial. It's literally the set of ASTs.
2025-01-18 00:10:48 +0100 <monochrom> "It's semantics all the way down" >:)