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| 2026-01-28 09:24:56 +0100 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 09:24:46 +0100 | Lord_of_Life | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine) |
| 2026-01-28 09:23:30 +0100 | poscat0x04 | (~poscat@user/poscat) poscat |
| 2026-01-28 09:22:14 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 09:20:01 +0100 | <int-e> | Good one. (I had to remind myself that pivot-to-ai.com is a critic's site.) |
| 2026-01-28 09:13:16 +0100 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2026-01-28 09:11:40 +0100 | <mauke> | https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/01/22/steve-yegges-gas-town-vibe-coding-goes-crypto-scam/ |
| 2026-01-28 09:08:31 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 09:07:16 +0100 | sord937 | (~sord937@gateway/tor-sasl/sord937) sord937 |
| 2026-01-28 09:06:01 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> do the people handling RLHF know that? :-p |
| 2026-01-28 09:05:24 +0100 | tzh | (~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) (Quit: zzz) |
| 2026-01-28 09:03:54 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-28 09:03:30 +0100 | <davean> | readbility comes from abstraction :-p |
| 2026-01-28 09:00:57 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:3c54:4195:2368:c0f6) |
| 2026-01-28 08:55:46 +0100 | Sgeo | (~Sgeo@user/sgeo) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-01-28 08:55:02 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 08:52:19 +0100 | SquirrelStar | (~halloy333@user/SquirrelStar) (Quit: SquirrelStar) |
| 2026-01-28 08:50:15 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-28 08:49:58 +0100 | SquirrelStar | (~halloy333@user/SquirrelStar) SquirrelStar |
| 2026-01-28 08:49:52 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@202.7.248.67) (Quit: https://ineedsomeacidtocalmmedown.space/) |
| 2026-01-28 08:49:11 +0100 | <[exa]> | oh wow |
| 2026-01-28 08:46:53 +0100 | <int-e> | surely that's a common enough term that wikipedia knows it |
| 2026-01-28 08:45:51 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> I think AI psychosis is a pleonasm. |
| 2026-01-28 08:45:46 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> DeepSeek told me to publish bullshit fantasyland dreaming to Xi Jinping. |
| 2026-01-28 08:45:06 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/urban-survival/202507/the-emerging-problem-of-ai-psychosis |
| 2026-01-28 08:44:44 +0100 | <[exa]> | what's AI psychosis? |
| 2026-01-28 08:40:37 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> AI psychosis basically comes from AI being overly agreeable and being grandiose in its response to satisfy RLHF. I wonder if, as much code ends up becoming AI generated, we'll end up having way more boilerplate and less abstraction in the name of "readability" from RLHF, which increases the SLOC productivity of AI. |
| 2026-01-28 08:40:08 +0100 | vanishingideal | (~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 08:39:19 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 08:34:30 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-28 08:33:22 +0100 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect |
| 2026-01-28 08:30:36 +0100 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-01-28 08:27:28 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> It ends up as a lot more code, and unmaintainable |
| 2026-01-28 08:27:03 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> We had outsystems, now we have prompts |
| 2026-01-28 08:26:30 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> So a lot of stuff is portrayed as "no code" so as to give non tech decision makers the idea they can become more independent of devs |
| 2026-01-28 08:25:35 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> There's a strong incentive to pitch productivity as "lowering costs you have" rather than "increase output you maybe can't sell" |
| 2026-01-28 08:23:54 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 08:22:53 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> those don't have the *added value* of being able to get rid of those pesky extra programmers |
| 2026-01-28 08:20:39 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> rate of shipping features / rate of regressions seems like a better metric |
| 2026-01-28 08:20:19 +0100 | olivial | (~benjaminl@user/benjaminl) benjaminl |
| 2026-01-28 08:20:02 +0100 | olivial | (~benjaminl@user/benjaminl) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-01-28 08:20:01 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> Can't boast about generating thousands of lines of code if you reuse code |
| 2026-01-28 08:18:41 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-28 08:17:56 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> i mean it's the Vercel starter kit. I take back all my whinging about Haskell, some more, I guess, Haskell has issues, but almost everything else is worse. I'm WTF-ing repeatedly at Vercel's refusal to abstract away repetitive code. |
| 2026-01-28 08:11:12 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> he had better success with go |
| 2026-01-28 08:10:38 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> steve yegge wrote that typescript is a bad language for AI code generation, it gives them too much rope |
| 2026-01-28 08:07:49 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-28 08:03:00 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-28 08:00:51 +0100 | gmg | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) gehmehgeh |
| 2026-01-28 08:00:11 +0100 | gmg | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) (Remote host closed the connection) |