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2026-02-07 11:19:55 +0100AlexNoo_(~AlexNoo@85.174.182.86)
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2026-02-07 11:17:59 +0100gentaurofeels like: `AbstractAnimalThatLivesInWaterAndHasGillsAndFins.class`
2026-02-07 11:16:42 +0100 <gentauro> `mkFreshIntVar` <- Hungarian notation for the win? Nah
2026-02-07 11:12:58 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
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2026-02-07 11:09:04 +0100trickard_trickard
2026-02-07 11:07:33 +0100 <jreicher> Codegen helps muddy the waters even further.
2026-02-07 11:05:58 +0100 <jreicher> I think the defining characteristic of Lisp is "no code, everything is data" which is why it gets confused with the presentation of sexprs
2026-02-07 11:04:53 +0100 <jreicher> Yes I think that's probably my point too. sexpr != lisp despite what everyone thinks
2026-02-07 11:03:52 +0100 <probie> The Z3 monad is really just a codegen monad
2026-02-07 11:03:12 +0100 <probie> They just chose S-expressions, because "everyone" in AI at the time was familiar with them
2026-02-07 11:02:33 +0100 <probie> gentauro: There's very little lispy-ness in the SMTLIB2 format. It might as well be JSON, YAML or something entirely bespoke
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2026-02-07 10:57:40 +0100 <jreicher> What do you mean? Lisp is not great for stuff like this.
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2026-02-07 10:56:00 +0100 <gentauro> I'm wondering how this (very Lisp'y) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z3_Theorem_Prover#Examples become like this https://github.com/IagoAbal/haskell-z3?tab=readme-ov-file#example
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